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OpenStudy (turingtest):
imagine it is a straight line between f(3) and f(4)
what is the slope of that line?
use that to make an equation for the line between x=3 and x=4, and use that equation to estimate f(3.5)
OpenStudy (anonymous):
i got 16
OpenStudy (turingtest):
can you show your work so i don't have to do it myself?
that way i can just look for mistakes
OpenStudy (anonymous):
wait i did it differently idk what youre talking about lol
OpenStudy (anonymous):
u can use any method to approximate?
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
yeah
OpenStudy (turingtest):
i mean find the slope of the line from x=3 to x=4 with \[{f(4)-f(3)\over4-3}\]I'm not sure which way Marki has in mind
OpenStudy (anonymous):
ok familiar with mean value theorem ?
OpenStudy (anonymous):
oh ok
OpenStudy (anonymous):
oh yes ,first i thought of Euler approximation then i thought naa it will complicate it only :P
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
f(4)-f(3)
OpenStudy (anonymous):
now what
OpenStudy (turingtest):
you need the slope
[f(4)-f(3)]/(4-3)
OpenStudy (anonymous):
f(1)
OpenStudy (anonymous):
4-3=1...
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OpenStudy (turingtest):
\[f(4)-f(3)\ne f(1)\]
OpenStudy (turingtest):
use your chart
OpenStudy (anonymous):
this is what @TuringTest doing
mean value theorem state for a continuous function f in interval a,b
there is c in (a,b)
s.t
f'(c)=f(b)-f(a)/b-a
so
f'(3.5)=f(4)-f(3)/4-3
OpenStudy (anonymous):
4
OpenStudy (turingtest):
no, what is f(4)?
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
8
OpenStudy (anonymous):
oh its 6
OpenStudy (anonymous):
oops
OpenStudy (turingtest):
good, that is the slope
now use the point-slope form of a line to get an equation for the approximation
OpenStudy (turingtest):
\[f(x)-f(x_1)=m(x-x_1)\]
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
naa there is no need :)
OpenStudy (anonymous):
f'(3.5) using that formula is enough for the question
OpenStudy (turingtest):
oooh yeah, I am rusty dang
OpenStudy (anonymous):
ooh so i was wrong
OpenStudy (turingtest):
but wouldn't 5 be the correct linear approximation @Marki ?
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
you got 5?
OpenStudy (anonymous):
oh right
OpenStudy (turingtest):
yes, but Marki disagrees
OpenStudy (anonymous):
i got 5 also
OpenStudy (turingtest):
yes because the interval of x=3 to x=4 is 6 wide, so f(3)+6/2 should be the linear approximation
the graph is clearly not linear, so perhaps his estimate is more accurate, but I don't see how he got it
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
i agree to 5 :O
what what im disagree with ?
OpenStudy (turingtest):
oh, you said that all we needed was f(4)-f(3)/4-3=6
OpenStudy (anonymous):
thank you guys(:
OpenStudy (anonymous):
oh sorry its 6 not 5 xD
OpenStudy (anonymous):
wait what
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OpenStudy (turingtest):
how? It should be 5 if we are using a linear approximation
OpenStudy (anonymous):
haha well this is how MVT works xD
OpenStudy (anonymous):
i think i agree with 5
OpenStudy (anonymous):
how did u got 5 ?
OpenStudy (turingtest):
I think that the mean value theorem only tells us that there *exists* a point c such that
f'(c)=f(b)-f(a)/b-a
not *that* f(c)=f(b)-f(a)/b-a
which is what you claim @Marki
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
remember this is approximation anything might work
OpenStudy (turingtest):
the slope of the secant is 6, you agree with that right, marki?
OpenStudy (anonymous):
yes lol , since its approximation xD
expected value for c is 4+3/2=3/5
OpenStudy (anonymous):
yep
OpenStudy (anonymous):
ok continue :)
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OpenStudy (turingtest):
so then we need to draw a line and use that slope to get a linear approximation|dw:1420227237573:dw|