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OpenStudy (studygurl14):

@surry99

OpenStudy (studygurl14):

i'm doing a math right now, but just thought I'd post it now in case you want to start on it

OpenStudy (studygurl14):

@surry99 this is was here_to_help gave me. Could you verify and explain? Moles H2SO4 = 250 g / 98 g/mol= 2.55 moles O = 2.55 x 4 = 10.2 Mass O = 10.2 mol x 16 g/mol=163.2 g

OpenStudy (surry99):

that is correct...do you fully understand it?

OpenStudy (studygurl14):

not really...

OpenStudy (studygurl14):

like, how'd he get the numbers to divide by, such as the 98 g

OpenStudy (surry99):

ok when I write H2S04 what does that mean to you...ie: how do you interpret that in terms of mols?

OpenStudy (studygurl14):

2 moles of H. 1 mole os S. 4 moles of O

OpenStudy (studygurl14):

of, not os*

OpenStudy (surry99):

ok so the way this is interpreted is as follows.. for every 1 mol of H2SO4 you have: 2 mol of H 1 mol of S 4 mol of O...agreed?

OpenStudy (studygurl14):

right

OpenStudy (studygurl14):

That's basically what i need. I can't remember what formula is used for what, or the formulas, period

OpenStudy (surry99):

Ah....so we need to teach you some formulas fast... First formula...n=m/M number of moles = mass/Molar Mass....you just have to memorize this... Second point....Molar Mass values are recorded for each element on the periodic table...do you have a copy on your desk?

OpenStudy (studygurl14):

no, but we are given one for the test. the molar mass is the atomic mass right?

OpenStudy (surry99):

You need a copy of the periodic table to study with...atomic mass = molar mass if I have just one mole. Go online, and print out a copy of the periodic table and let me know when you have it and we can continue or pull one up on your monitor

OpenStudy (studygurl14):

got one

OpenStudy (surry99):

so...lets go through the problem step by step... you have 250 g of H2SO4....how do you figure out how many mols that is?

OpenStudy (studygurl14):

um...divide it by the total amount of mols in one gram?

OpenStudy (studygurl14):

not wait...*sigh* idk

OpenStudy (studygurl14):

multiply by the total amount of mols in one gram?

OpenStudy (surry99):

n=m/M... you are given the mass (250 g) you need to calculate the molar mass of H2S04....this is where you use the periodic table.

OpenStudy (surry99):

now the molar mass by definition is the weight in grams of 1 mol of compound.

OpenStudy (surry99):

so I need the weight in grams of 1 mol of H2S04... 2 mols of H * 1.01 g/mol = 2.02 g of H 1 mol of S * 32.06 g/mol = 32.06 g of S 4 mol of O * 16.0 g/ mol = 64.0 g of O so the molar mass of H2S04 is 2.02 + 32.06+64 = 98 g

OpenStudy (surry99):

See how I used the atomic masses from the periodic table?

OpenStudy (studygurl14):

oh, I see. that's where you get the 98g

OpenStudy (surry99):

ok lets keep going ... calculate for me then if I have 250 g of H2S04 how many mols is that?

OpenStudy (studygurl14):

2.55?

OpenStudy (surry99):

n=m/M = 250 g/98 g/mol = 2.55 mol Always write in your units!

OpenStudy (studygurl14):

Okay. So, then nxt step figuring out how many moles of that is oxygen..?

OpenStudy (surry99):

yes

OpenStudy (surry99):

here is where you use the mol ratio from the compound itself....for every 1 mol of H2S04 how many mol of oxygen do you have?

OpenStudy (studygurl14):

4

OpenStudy (studygurl14):

multiply by 4/7 ...?

OpenStudy (surry99):

not quite...you have 4 mol of oxygen for every 1 mol of H2S04...agreed?

OpenStudy (studygurl14):

agreed

OpenStudy (surry99):

2.55 mol of H2S04 * 4 mol of O/1 mol of H2S04 = 10.2 mol of O you see what I mean now by writing in the units...

OpenStudy (surry99):

by writing in your units, you can cancel where appropriate and ensure your final answer is in the correct units and that you mol ratios were correct.

OpenStudy (studygurl14):

Ah. I see.

OpenStudy (studygurl14):

dimentional analyis,s my teacher calls it

OpenStudy (surry99):

yes...we use it all the time in math, chem, physics etc....very important!

OpenStudy (surry99):

ok, now last step...you have 10.2 mol of O....how many grams is that?

OpenStudy (studygurl14):

Um....I don't know...in the stuff here-to-help gave me up there ^ he put about 163 or something like that. he multiplied by 16 g, but i don't know where he got that.

OpenStudy (surry99):

n=m/M so rearrange to get m = n*M ( mass = number of mols * Molar Mass)

OpenStudy (surry99):

number of mols of O is...

OpenStudy (studygurl14):

10.2 times ah...15.999 (16) = 163.2

OpenStudy (studygurl14):

i see. Long process...

OpenStudy (studygurl14):

163.2 g (forgot unit, xD)

OpenStudy (surry99):

yes...but this is the basis of chemistry...working with mass, mols and molar mass so the first equation to write on your formula sheet is: n=m/M

OpenStudy (studygurl14):

I copied the process from this problem down in word

OpenStudy (surry99):

and don't forget about having a periodic table available while you do chem.

OpenStudy (studygurl14):

I won't. :)

OpenStudy (studygurl14):

Thank you so much.

OpenStudy (surry99):

no problem at all...TTYL

OpenStudy (surry99):

notice you can do this quickly if you use correct dimensional analysis: (250 g of H2SO4/98 g of H2S04/1 mol of H2S04) * (4 mol of O/1 mol of H2S04)* 16.0 g of )/1 mol of O = 163 g of O

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