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OpenStudy (anonymous):

**take a look! I need help really quick! solving rational expressions!

OpenStudy (anonymous):

OpenStudy (anonymous):

i have gotten as far as 0=-6w-2 and now i believe i am supposed to factor?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

@ganeshie8 hi! you helped me out some last night, would you happen to know how to solve this as well?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

@SolomonZelman any help?

OpenStudy (xapproachesinfinity):

hey there! what is your progress so far

OpenStudy (xapproachesinfinity):

did you attempt anything

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yes i have gotten to 0=-6w-2. i am just stuck now!, i started by multiplying everything by w+4 and i ended up with 7=5-6w. then i subtracted 7.

OpenStudy (xapproachesinfinity):

hmm well you started good by multiplying by w+4 but you made a slight mistake 7=5-6w is not the result after simplifying recheck it again especially the term -6w

OpenStudy (xapproachesinfinity):

just to make it easier for yu \(\large 7=5-6\frac{w+4}{w}\)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

okay so do you end up with 6w+4?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

or just -24?

OpenStudy (xapproachesinfinity):

no what is \(\Large \frac{w+4}{w}\)

OpenStudy (xapproachesinfinity):

how would you simplify that

OpenStudy (anonymous):

just cancel out the W and result with 4

OpenStudy (xapproachesinfinity):

you can't you w+4 on the top no 4w

OpenStudy (xapproachesinfinity):

not* 4w you can do what said if you have 4w/w=4

OpenStudy (anonymous):

so 4/w? as the result? im sorry i have issues with simple things like this that i should know!

OpenStudy (xapproachesinfinity):

well you have of it! it should be 1+4/w this a fraction split if you have \(\large \frac{a+b}{a}\) you can write also as \(\ \frac{a}{a}+\frac{b}{a}=1+\frac{b}{a}\)

OpenStudy (xapproachesinfinity):

so what is the result so far after doing this

OpenStudy (anonymous):

-6 4/w? im really confused, im not sure.

OpenStudy (xapproachesinfinity):

this is a common denominator stuff if you remember that's why we split the fraction like that

OpenStudy (xapproachesinfinity):

here: \(\large 7=5-6(1+4/w)\) since we know that (w+4)/w=1+4/w

OpenStudy (xapproachesinfinity):

you should be thinking of solving the equation the usual why you solve them now just think of 1+4/w as one unit like x for example if we have 7=5-6x how would you solve that?

OpenStudy (xapproachesinfinity):

way* for why sorry... :)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

dont you have to make it equal zero? then you factor?

OpenStudy (xapproachesinfinity):

yeah try solving 7=5-6x and then we deal with the other part later

OpenStudy (anonymous):

okay so 0=-2-6w hahah like i had originally right?

OpenStudy (xapproachesinfinity):

no that's different my friend i give you a different variable hehe 7=5-6x here x=1+4/w it is not just x=w so careful about this

OpenStudy (xapproachesinfinity):

now solve 0=-2-6x surely this is not the end

OpenStudy (xapproachesinfinity):

we want to isolate x okay

OpenStudy (anonymous):

oh okay sorry i just need to get this problem done. im still not sure it looks just like the other problem and im not sure how to solve once we are at that step.

OpenStudy (xapproachesinfinity):

how about you add 2 to both sides? -2-6x+2=2 ====>-6x=2

OpenStudy (anonymous):

okay and then you would get -1/3=x.

OpenStudy (xapproachesinfinity):

yes correct x=-1/3 now we said that x=1+4/w from our earlier equation i set that myself to make it easier for you so we go back to w we then have 1+4/w=-1/3

OpenStudy (xapproachesinfinity):

start by subtracting 1 from both sides

OpenStudy (xapproachesinfinity):

actually there is a much easier way to do all this but you started your way so i decided to go with your way to walk you through

OpenStudy (xapproachesinfinity):

so what do we get then if we subtracted 1 from both sides

OpenStudy (xapproachesinfinity):

1+4/w -1= -1/3 -1

OpenStudy (xapproachesinfinity):

4/w = ?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

3?

OpenStudy (xapproachesinfinity):

no -1/3-1 is not 3

OpenStudy (anonymous):

im confused as to what part of the problem we are solving haha and im sorry i just dont have very much time left to try and figure this out.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

i know i am supposed to 1 find the LCD, 2 multiply it by all the parts of the expression, 3 simplify, 4 make it equal to zero and then factor.

OpenStudy (xapproachesinfinity):

hhh after you multiplied by w+4 we got 7=5-6(1+4/w) we were solving for 1+4/w and we got 1+4/w=-1/3 now we are looking for w here so we need to isolate it completely

OpenStudy (xapproachesinfinity):

4/w= -4/3 now we need to take care of 4 to get only w in one side

OpenStudy (xapproachesinfinity):

eh you don't need to think about making it equal zero for linear equations that's for quadratic equations you know

OpenStudy (xapproachesinfinity):

if you have 3x-4=6 you add 4 you get 3x=10 multiply by 1/3 you get x=10/3

OpenStudy (anonymous):

okay im following^

OpenStudy (xapproachesinfinity):

now in our equation we have 4/w=-4/3 i got -4/3 from -1/3-1 if i multiply by 1/4 i get 1/w=-1/3

OpenStudy (xapproachesinfinity):

now we almost done

OpenStudy (xapproachesinfinity):

if 1/w=-1/3 then w=-3 i just flip both sides you know this yes?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yes okay i get that

OpenStudy (xapproachesinfinity):

plug in -3 to your equation and it should work

OpenStudy (xapproachesinfinity):

now let's do it the easier way perhaps easier for me LOL

OpenStudy (anonymous):

hmm okay i will try plugging it in

OpenStudy (xapproachesinfinity):

7/(w+4)=5/(w+4)-6/w i need common denominator for the right hand side 7/(w+4)=(5w-6(w+4))/(w(w+4)) more neat: \(\Large \frac{7}{w+4}=\frac{5w-6(w+4)}{w(w+4)}\)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yup -3 works! thanks!

OpenStudy (xapproachesinfinity):

from here i can cancel 1/w+4 since it in both sides then i get \(7=\large\frac{5w-6(w+4)}{w}\) cross multiply you get \(7w=5w-6(w+4)\) and now everything is just solving a simple equation

OpenStudy (xapproachesinfinity):

YW!

OpenStudy (anonymous):

ah wait! i have one more! let me try and go through it

OpenStudy (xapproachesinfinity):

i need to go actually sorry time is out for me

OpenStudy (xapproachesinfinity):

just follow the same step look at this question and do the same thing

OpenStudy (anonymous):

okay thanks!

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