Can anyone help me with Work and Energy? There's a 2kg mass moving on a surface which in the end there's a spin. The distance between A-B is 5 meters and ONLY between A-B there's friction (meaning under the spin there's no friction) The initial velocity of the mass is 6.261m/s the coefficient of friction is 0.2.Find constriction of the spring when the box hits it knowing the K of the spring is 36.4 N/m
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
OpenStudy (anonymous):
Attached herewith the question
OpenStudy (anonymous):
I thought it should be W=KX^2- mv^2*0.5
OpenStudy (anonymous):
Wf=Eel-Ek
OpenStudy (anonymous):
Am I wrong, or the book is wrong?
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
I got 1.7974 m, is it correct?
OpenStudy (anonymous):
@Abhisar
OpenStudy (anonymous):
@Abhisar What do you think
OpenStudy (anonymous):
Thanks!
OpenStudy (abhisar):
an you calculate the final velocity with which the box collided with the spring?
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OpenStudy (abhisar):
*Can
OpenStudy (anonymous):
6.261 m/s
OpenStudy (anonymous):
@pooja195
OpenStudy (abhisar):
After that use \(\sf \frac{1}{2}mv^2=\frac{1}{2}kx^2\)
OpenStudy (abhisar):
Getting it?
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
the final? not the initial?
OpenStudy (abhisar):
Yes, use final velocity......
OpenStudy (anonymous):
How can I calculate it? sorry I'm a bit confused
OpenStudy (anonymous):
the final velocity
OpenStudy (anonymous):
and why not the way I've calculated it?
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OpenStudy (abhisar):
You can use \(v^2=u^2+2as\)
take u=6.261
s=5m
a=0.2*9.8
OpenStudy (anonymous):
a is the coefficient of friction? I've never seen this equation
OpenStudy (abhisar):
I have used conservation of energy, the kinetic energy of box after collision gets stored as the potential energy of spring.
OpenStudy (anonymous):
oh kinematics right my bad lol
OpenStudy (anonymous):
You're incredible! Thanks allot!
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
Truly brilliant
OpenStudy (anonymous):
So does it make sense that the final velocity would be much smaller?
OpenStudy (anonymous):
I got 7.668 m/s
OpenStudy (abhisar):
a is acceleration, I have calculated acceleration by multiplying coffecient of friction by acceleration due to gravity.
Yes, final velocity will be smaller since friction is acting.
OpenStudy (anonymous):
wait, but I got the same answer 1.797 m
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
The computer says I'm wrong
OpenStudy (anonymous):
nooooooooooooooooooooooo
OpenStudy (anonymous):
@Abhisar I got the same answer as before, by the way I've calculated it from the beginning
OpenStudy (abhisar):
oh, i didn't check ur work...
OpenStudy (abhisar):
are u sure, u hav calculated things correctly?
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
yeah it's the same result 1.797s m/s
OpenStudy (anonymous):
I should join the circus instead lol
OpenStudy (anonymous):
premed is crazy
OpenStudy (anonymous):
but thanks! I'll ask my TA on Sunday morning
OpenStudy (anonymous):
thank you so much!
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OpenStudy (abhisar):
np, but lemme recheck it..
OpenStudy (anonymous):
darn
OpenStudy (abhisar):
Calculation of final velocity
\(\sf v^2 = u^2 - 2\times 0.2 \times 10 \times 5 \\ \therefore v \approx 4.3\)
OpenStudy (abhisar):
Now,
\(\sf \frac{1}{2}\times 2\times {4.3}^2=\frac{1}{2}\times 36.4 \times x^2\)
Calculate the final value of x
OpenStudy (abhisar):
I got a different answer this time....
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
Really?
OpenStudy (anonymous):
@Abhisar What did you do differently this time?
OpenStudy (abhisar):
I have written my steps above....^^^^
OpenStudy (anonymous):
I got 1.027m
OpenStudy (anonymous):
did u get the same?
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OpenStudy (abhisar):
Yes, I got approximately the same...
OpenStudy (anonymous):
but why did u multiply by 10?
OpenStudy (anonymous):
v2=u2−2×0.2×10×5∴v≈4.3
OpenStudy (anonymous):
v2=u2−2×0.2×10×5
OpenStudy (anonymous):
I'm trying to copy the equation you did to get the final velocity
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
@Abhisar
OpenStudy (abhisar):
I used 10 for ease of calculation, you can take it 9.8 if you wish.
Force of friction = Mass X coff. frictin X acceleration due to gravity
acceleration due to friction = coff. frictin X acceleration due to gravity
Got it?
OpenStudy (abhisar):
*frictin = friction.
OpenStudy (anonymous):
you're brilliant! Thanks allot!
OpenStudy (abhisar):
Welcome ^_^
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OpenStudy (abhisar):
and not really, I am just ok ;)
OpenStudy (anonymous):
and then you've multiplied it by 5 as well
OpenStudy (anonymous):
because of the distance, right?
OpenStudy (anonymous):
lol
OpenStudy (abhisar):
Yes :)
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
I wish I could help you as much as you've helped me