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OpenStudy (studygurl14):

@surry99

OpenStudy (studygurl14):

OpenStudy (surry99):

ok, first thing I need you to do is calculate the number of moles for all the compounds they gave you weights for...Remember n=m/M ....number of mols = mass/ molar mass

OpenStudy (studygurl14):

okay.

OpenStudy (surry99):

take your time, you need to get them right ...be back in 5 minutes

OpenStudy (surry99):

I am back.

OpenStudy (studygurl14):

for the first one, i got approx 2.74 for the second 6.08

OpenStudy (studygurl14):

wait..i didn't do the third one..ugh

OpenStudy (studygurl14):

4.38 for the third

OpenStudy (surry99):

ok, to summarize: 2.74 mol of AL2()SO4)3 6.08 mol of Ca(OH)2 4.38 mol of CaSO4 ...correct

OpenStudy (studygurl14):

yay. next step?

OpenStudy (surry99):

The LR by definition does three things: 1) it is entirely consumed in a reaction 2) it limits or determines the amount of XS react which reacts 3) it limits or determines the amount of product that forms have you seen these things?

OpenStudy (here_to_help15):

Having sorted out the formulae, balance the equation: Al2(SO4)3 + 3Ca(OH)2 --> 3CaSO4 + 2Al(OH)3 Now look closely at this equation: 1mol Al2(SO4)3 will react with 3mol Ca(OH)2 to produce 3mol CaSO4 and 2 mol Al(OH)3 : What is the limiting reactant : Molar mass Al2(SO4)3 = 342.15g/mol 500g = 500/342.15 = 1.461 mol Al2(SO4)3 This will require 3*1.461 = 4.383 mol Ca(OH)2 Molar mass Ca(OH)2 = 74.09 g/mol 450g = 6.074 mol Ca(OH)2 You need 4.383mol to react completely with the Al2(SO4)3, so the Ca(OH)2 is in excess, and the Al2(SO4)3 is the limiting reactant. Note: there are a number of ways of finding the limiting reactant, but I find that this method is easy and logical. How many moles of excess reactant are unreacted? You have 6.074mol. You need 4.383mol : Excess unreacted: 6.074-4.383 = 1.69mol Ca(OH)2 unreacted and remaining. You have been given the mass of the CaSO4 produced. I guess that this question goes on about % yield, etc. because the mass produced is not required to calculate the limiting reactant.

OpenStudy (here_to_help15):

Oops Formula*

OpenStudy (here_to_help15):

I was typing way past my limit haha ;)

OpenStudy (surry99):

I better check your mole calculations @studygurl14

OpenStudy (studygurl14):

okay....

OpenStudy (here_to_help15):

Hi @surry99

OpenStudy (surry99):

ok, we need to figure out where your mole calculation went wrong for AL2(SO4)3,,, for Al2(SO4)3 ...1.46 mol for Ca(OH)2 ....6.08 mol Ca(SO4) ....4.38 mol

OpenStudy (surry99):

now again... The LR by definition does three things: 1) it is entirely consumed in a reaction 2) it limits or determines the amount of XS react which reacts 3) it limits or determines the amount of product that forms have you seen this before?

OpenStudy (studygurl14):

yeah, i've seen it befre

OpenStudy (studygurl14):

don't know where i went wrong...

OpenStudy (studygurl14):

this is what i did (i rounded) 500/(27(2) + 32.06(3) + 16(3)(4)) = approx 2.74 mol of Al2(SO4)3 450/(40+16(2)+1(2)) = approx 6.08 mol of Ca(OH)2 596/(40+32.06+16(4))= approx 4.38 mol of CaSO4

OpenStudy (surry99):

no problem...ok so by using the mole ratios from the balanced equation I can figure out the LR.

OpenStudy (surry99):

500/(27(2) + 32.06(3) + 16(3)(4)) = approx 2.74 mol of Al2(SO4)3 check the math here later

OpenStudy (surry99):

I am going to assume that the AL2(S04)3 is the LR. By definition, it would limit or determine the amount of product produced and is entiorely consume in the reaction. so far so good?

OpenStudy (surry99):

entirely

OpenStudy (studygurl14):

good

OpenStudy (surry99):

ok so here is how the calculation goes: 1.46 mol of Al2(SO4)3 * 3 mols of CaSO4/1 mol of AL2(SO4)3 = 4.38 mol of CaSO4 Looks like I guessed right...that is the exact amount of product that was produced therefore Al2(SO4)3 is the LR.

OpenStudy (surry99):

You can try later assuming that Ca(OH)2 is the LR and determining how much CaS04 would have been produced but you will find that it would produce more than you actually got , so the assumption that Ca(Oh)2 was the LR must be wrong.

OpenStudy (studygurl14):

ok..i'm checking my work. still not getting what i did wrong

OpenStudy (surry99):

This method is based on mathematical reasoning ..if a then b...

OpenStudy (surry99):

500/(27(2) + 32.06(3) + 16(3)(4)) = approx 2.74 mol of Al2(SO4)3 check the math here later when I punch these in I get 1.46 mol

OpenStudy (studygurl14):

oh, huh. it worked this time

OpenStudy (surry99):

now to figure out how much the Ca(OH)2 is in left over... Initial amount - what reacts (which is based on the LR) = what is left over 6.08 mol of Ca(OH)2 - 1.46 mol of AL2(SO4)3 * 3 mol of Ca(OH)2/1 mol of Al2(SO4)3 = 1.7 mol of Ca(OH)2

OpenStudy (surry99):

To do these types of problems you must know all three aspects of a LR.

OpenStudy (studygurl14):

um...wow...

OpenStudy (surry99):

wow good or wow bad?

OpenStudy (studygurl14):

wow good/bad.

OpenStudy (studygurl14):

i think i get it.

OpenStudy (surry99):

you going to be ok?

OpenStudy (studygurl14):

i just have to look over the steps one more time

OpenStudy (studygurl14):

Yes, thank you So, so much @surry99

OpenStudy (studygurl14):

Definitely a livesaver. I'llleft you know how the test goes. :)

OpenStudy (surry99):

Please do... make sure equations are balanced convert masses to moles (n=m/M) take mol ratios from the balanced equations for calculations God Luck!

OpenStudy (surry99):

Good Luck! (too!)

OpenStudy (studygurl14):

Thanks. Now go feed those hugry puppies!

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