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OpenStudy (astrophysics):

Surfaces of revolution

OpenStudy (astrophysics):

Hey so I have a question, my prof says cross sections don't always give you the right answers, and he does these quadratic surfaces a weird way, which seems arbitrary to me, so for example what if we have a problem like this \[x^2-y^2-z^2=1\] I would have assumed you would make each variable a constant and trace from there but it's not right I guess... @ganeshie8 @Kainui

OpenStudy (astrophysics):

So the way I learned it, I would first \[x^2-(y^2+z^2)=1\] since we know \[x^2-y^2=1\] is a hyperbola. Then we would rotate about the x - axis, but I think there is some polar coordinates implied somewhere here.

OpenStudy (astrophysics):

Why exactly are we choosing the x - axis to rotate it around, or is that arbitrary to.

OpenStudy (dan815):

u can say y^2+z^2 = r^2

OpenStudy (astrophysics):

Right!

OpenStudy (dan815):

and u have a hyperbola wrt to the radius so a hyperbola at every angle

OpenStudy (dan815):

so same as rotating one hyperbola for some cross sectional plane or just take z=0 then it will be x^2-/y^2 in this case r^2 just happened to be y^2 this be the same it will be rorated at every angle

OpenStudy (astrophysics):

That's it haha? So is that what we do with most of the questions related to as such.

OpenStudy (dan815):

i dont think so its my first time seeing this trick im sure theres other ways

OpenStudy (dan815):

do u have another qusetion like this?

OpenStudy (astrophysics):

Mhm, I'm trying to look for one

OpenStudy (astrophysics):

Ok what if we had something like \[3x^2-2y^2+4z^2=1\]

OpenStudy (dan815):

elliptical hyperbola?

OpenStudy (dan815):

u can stick (3x^2+4z^2) -2y^2 =1

OpenStudy (astrophysics):

Yeah, that's what I'm thinking

OpenStudy (dan815):

then do a change of coordinates to rescale the ellipse into a circle and u get the same scenario

OpenStudy (dan815):

and use the jacboian to conintue to work with integration and stuff for all useful purposes that is enuff but if ur prof wants its to be drawn only on x y z, and the picture is the most important then

OpenStudy (astrophysics):

Ok well lets make it easier on ourselves just for a moment so I understand this process haha, lets make the coefficients the same for x^2+z^2

OpenStudy (dan815):

ya then tis the same thing but now

OpenStudy (dan815):

u rotate about the R axis?

OpenStudy (dan815):

lemme think

OpenStudy (astrophysics):

Ok so (x^2+z^2)-2y^2 = 1 then here I'd be rotating it around the y-axis right

OpenStudy (dan815):

is it y for x^2-r^2 =1 u rottated about the x axis

OpenStudy (dan815):

for r^2-y^2=1?

OpenStudy (astrophysics):

Yeah pretty much

OpenStudy (astrophysics):

No for z^2-y^2=1 is rotated around x axis if that's what you mean

OpenStudy (dan815):

im thinking its a hyperbola but now its rotated polarly

OpenStudy (astrophysics):

it is a hyperbola

OpenStudy (dan815):

so u get like a hour glass

OpenStudy (dan815):

hmm

OpenStudy (astrophysics):

Yeah basically, I'm thinking something like this |dw:1420864309129:dw|

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