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OpenStudy (wade123):

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OpenStudy (phi):

write it using dy/dx multiply both sides by dx to "move" dx up top (and on the other side) what else should you do ?

OpenStudy (wade123):

integrate!

OpenStudy (wade123):

how would i write it with dy/dx cause it is y'

OpenStudy (phi):

y' is another way to write dy/dx

OpenStudy (phi):

y' means "take the derivative of y with respect to some other obvious variable ... x in this case"

OpenStudy (phi):

\[ \dot{y} \] y with a dot over it means dy/dt (derivative of y with respect to time t)

OpenStudy (wade123):

ohh so it would be dy/dx= 4xsqrt1-y^2

OpenStudy (phi):

yes. now "separate the variables" multiply both sides by dx and what else should you do ?

OpenStudy (wade123):

wait how would it loked like with the sqrt? i know how to do it over fractions

OpenStudy (wade123):

after that, integrate?

OpenStudy (phi):

after multiplying by dx on both sides what do you get ?

OpenStudy (wade123):

what would it look like separated?

OpenStudy (phi):

so far you have dy/dx= 4xsqrt(1-y^2) after multiplying by dx on both sides what do you get ?

OpenStudy (wade123):

dy=4xsqrt(1-y^2)dx

OpenStudy (phi):

now what should you multiply to move the sqrt part ?

OpenStudy (wade123):

multiply each side by sqrt?

OpenStudy (phi):

if you have x=y and multiply both sides by y you get xy = y^2 if you multiply by 1/y you get x/y = 1 notice multiplying by the "inverse" 1/y moved the y to the other side

OpenStudy (phi):

in other words you divide both sides by sqr(stuff) on the right side you get 1 on the other side you get a fraction

OpenStudy (wade123):

oh so you multiply each side by sqrt1-y^2?

OpenStudy (wade123):

wait i think im confused hahah

OpenStudy (phi):

think like this: if I have x* stuff and I want to "get rid" of stuff I divide by stuff x * stuff/stuff anything divided by itself is 1, so we get x*1 or just x and because it's an equation we also divide the other side by stuff to keep things equal

OpenStudy (wade123):

oh right! so divide each side by sqrt 1-y^2

OpenStudy (phi):

yes

OpenStudy (phi):

what is the next step ?

OpenStudy (wade123):

integrate?

OpenStudy (phi):

yes. the right side is the power rule.

OpenStudy (wade123):

the left would be arcsin(y) and the right would be 2x^2

OpenStudy (phi):

yes, and toss in a C

OpenStudy (phi):

now solve for y (take the sin of both sides)

OpenStudy (phi):

remember sin(arcsin(y)) = y the sin and arcsin are inverses that undo the other.

OpenStudy (phi):

you get \[ y = \sin(2x^2+C) \] notice that no matter what number you put into sin you get out a number between -1 and 1

OpenStudy (wade123):

okay got it, whats next?

OpenStudy (phi):

part b. which is answered up above. replace x with 0 in your solution and you get y= sin(C) but there is no C that will cause the sin to return 4

OpenStudy (wade123):

oh that was easy , your explanation helped a lot(:

OpenStudy (phi):

yes. or you can leave it using arcsin but for part b, it's easier (for me) to use the sin version

OpenStudy (wade123):

okay, got it , thank you!!

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