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OpenStudy (fionacndg):

Help with a restriction of a product and quotient question. Just need some help. Will award best answer

OpenStudy (fionacndg):

OpenStudy (fionacndg):

@iambatman

OpenStudy (fionacndg):

@e.mccormick

OpenStudy (fionacndg):

@jim_thompson5910

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

are you able to factor each piece?

OpenStudy (fionacndg):

yes, I can

OpenStudy (fionacndg):

(x+4)(x+1) / (x+4)(x+1) * (x+5)(x-1) /(x+3) Those are the factors I found. I want to learn how to find restrictions, can you also help and teach me do that? I want to learn this and understand this! @jim_thompson5910

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

you factored x^2 + 3x - 4 incorrectly

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

everything else looks good, so try factoring x^2 + 3x - 4 again

OpenStudy (fionacndg):

oops sorry, okay

OpenStudy (fionacndg):

It should be (x-1) instead of (x+1) my typing error

OpenStudy (fionacndg):

@jim_thompson5910

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

so we have \[\Large \frac{x^2+5x+4}{x^2+3x-4} \cdot \frac{x^2+4x-5}{x+3}\] \[\Large \frac{(x+4)(x+1)}{(x+4)(x-1)} \cdot \frac{(x+5)(x-1)}{x+3}\]

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

looking at \[\Large \frac{(x+4)(x+1)}{(x+4)(x-1)} \cdot \frac{(x+5)(x-1)}{x+3}\] what do you see canceling?

OpenStudy (fionacndg):

(x+4)

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

\[\Large \frac{(x+4)(x+1)}{(x+4)(x-1)} \cdot \frac{(x+5)(x-1)}{x+3}\] \[\Large \frac{\cancel{(x+4)}(x+1)}{\cancel{(x+4)}(x-1)} \cdot \frac{(x+5)(x-1)}{x+3}\] \[\Large \frac{x+1}{x-1} \cdot \frac{(x+5)(x-1)}{x+3}\]

OpenStudy (fionacndg):

(x-1)

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

\[\Large \frac{x+1}{x-1} \cdot \frac{(x+5)(x-1)}{x+3}\] \[\Large \frac{x+1}{\cancel{(x-1)}} \cdot \frac{(x+5)\cancel{(x-1)}}{x+3}\] \[\Large \frac{x+1}{1} \cdot \frac{x+5}{x+3}\] \[\Large \frac{(x+1)(x+5)}{1*(x+3)}\] \[\Large \frac{(x+1)(x+5)}{x+3}\] \[\Large \frac{x^2+6x+5}{x+3}\]

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

so this is what the full step by step picture looks like \[\Large \frac{x^2+5x+4}{x^2+3x-4} \cdot \frac{x^2+4x-5}{x+3}\] \[\Large \frac{(x+4)(x+1)}{(x+4)(x-1)} \cdot \frac{(x+5)(x-1)}{x+3}\] \[\Large \frac{\cancel{(x+4)}(x+1)}{\cancel{(x+4)}(x-1)} \cdot \frac{(x+5)(x-1)}{x+3}\] \[\Large \frac{x+1}{x-1} \cdot \frac{(x+5)(x-1)}{x+3}\] \[\Large \frac{x+1}{\cancel{(x-1)}} \cdot \frac{(x+5)\cancel{(x-1)}}{x+3}\] \[\Large \frac{x+1}{1} \cdot \frac{x+5}{x+3}\] \[\Large \frac{(x+1)(x+5)}{1*(x+3)}\] \[\Large \frac{(x+1)(x+5)}{x+3}\] \[\Large \frac{x^2+6x+5}{x+3}\]

OpenStudy (fionacndg):

(x+5)(x+1) / x+3

OpenStudy (fionacndg):

would the restriction be 1? @jim_thompson5910

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

the restriction is basically kicking out numbers that make any denominator zero

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

so one number we kick out is x = -3 because it makes the denominator "x+3" equal to zero

OpenStudy (fionacndg):

Ohhhh, now that makes sense

OpenStudy (fionacndg):

@jim_thompson5910

OpenStudy (fionacndg):

so would 1 be the restriction?

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

focus on \[\Large \frac{(x+4)(x+1)}{(x+4)(x-1)} \cdot \frac{(x+5)(x-1)}{x+3}\]

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

the denominators are: x+4, x-1, x+3

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

so there are 3 restrictions one of the three restrictions are x = -3 (it makes x+3 equal to zero)

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

another is x = 1 since it makes x-1 equal to zero

OpenStudy (fionacndg):

oh would 4 be it, I forgot about the other denominators.

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

not 4

OpenStudy (fionacndg):

OHHH, it is what will make it 0... sorry I was confused, so I have 3 answer choices for my study guide and it includes -1, -3 and 4... I do not know what to do. @jim_thompson5910

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

you can only choose one choice?

OpenStudy (fionacndg):

Yes... and I have no idea what to do now

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

ok so why not just look at the final simplified result

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

there is only one denominator there

OpenStudy (fionacndg):

Okay! -3 then!

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

yes

OpenStudy (fionacndg):

Thank you so much! now I can do this for my next equation with no problem!! thank you!!

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

you're welcome

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