\[\int \frac{1}{x} dx \\ =\int \frac{\ln(x)}{\ln(x)} \cdot \frac{1}{x} dx=\int \frac{1}{\ln(x)} \cdot \frac{\ln(x)}{x} dx \\ =\frac{1}{\ln(x)} \cdot \frac{\ln^2(x)}{2}-\int \frac{\frac{-1}{x}}{\ln^2(x)} \cdot \frac{\ln^2(x)}{2} dx \\ =\frac{\ln(x)}{2}+ \frac{1}{2} \int \frac{1}{x} dx \\ \text{ So we have } \\ (\frac{-1}{2}+1) \int \frac{1}{x} dx=\frac{1}{\ln(x)} \cdot \frac{\ln^2(x)}{2} dx \\ \frac{1}{2} \int \frac{1}{x} dx=\frac{\ln^2(x)}{2 \ln(x)} \\ \frac{1}{2} \int \frac{1}{x} dx=\frac{\ln(x)}{2} \\ \\ \int \frac{1}{x} dx=\ln(x) \\ \text{ Now we just need to tact on that } +C \]
for x>0 of course :) @SolomonZelman just wanted to explore that question a little
got disconnected, tnx for mentioning
I used u=1/ln(x) and dv=ln(x)/x dx
but to do this by integration by parts it does require us to know d/dx ln(x) =1/x but i don't see a what to do it by integration by parts without knowing that
\(\large\color{slate}{\displaystyle\int\limits_{~}^{~}1/x~dx}\) \(\large\color{slate}{x(1/x)-\displaystyle\int\limits_{~}^{~}(x)(-1)(1/x^2)~dx}\) \(\large\color{slate}{1+\displaystyle\int\limits_{~}^{~}(1/x)~dx}\) \(\large\color{slate}{\displaystyle\int\limits_{~}^{~}1/x~dx=1+\displaystyle\int\limits_{~}^{~}1/x~dx}\) \(\large\color{slate}{1=0}\)
but there are limits to by parts, no?
I would like to say\[ \int \frac 1xdx\neq \int \frac 1x dx \]
(Which doesn't make sense as mush as 1=0 )
but there was no rule violation in what I posted, or was there?
I guess that..
It's a bit like saying \[ \pm x\neq \pm x \]
Not that they're always unequal, but sometimes they aren't equal
\(\large\color{slate}{\displaystyle\int\limits_{~}^{~}f(x)~dx=\displaystyle\int\limits_{~}^{~}f(x)~dx+C}\)
such as: \(\large\color{slate}{\displaystyle\int\limits_{~}^{~}f(x)~dx=\displaystyle\int\limits_{~}^{~}f(x)~dx+1}\)
and such a function f(x)=1/x
it is actually making sense, ain't it?
it gets absorbed by +C, but I guess the violation comes when you subtract \(\large\color{slate}{\displaystyle\int\limits_{~}^{~}\frac{1}{x}~dx}\) from both sides, as wio, I guess was saying
@wio ty
ty @freckles
I figured. I should have asked it myself, but didn't consider it important... tnx for raising it.... (bye, I guess ?) see you!
i thought "is there a way to integrate 1/x w.r.t x by parts" an interesting question.
Mostly because I never tried
oh, I just say that post that Kainui made (question asked by Marki, to prove that 1=0 using by parts). And I struggled to figure out when is the violation starting. No guideline on by parts, guideline on subtracting. Not that I would for real integrate 1/x by parts. I try to find easiest approaches to any problem be it math or any other subject. And, freckles, don't try... lol
i dont see anything wrong in by parts for 1/x as you said, if we see that derivative of lnx is 1/x, we're done. and ofcourse we gona miss all the rest of fun stuff ;)
And yes integrating 1/x w.r.t x by parts is probably the most unnecessary thing one can do while knowing d/dx ln(x) =1/x But like you said it takes the fun away :)
XD im going thru this discussion on fake proof 0=1 http://math.stackexchange.com/questions/806254/using-integration-by-parts-results-in-0-1
\[\int f(x) dx \equiv \int f(x) \pmod {\text{constant functions}}\]
Perhaps if we want to say: \[ \int dx = \int dx \]And when we let \(u=1, dv=dx\) we have to remember to say: \[ \int dx = \big(x+C\big)-\int 0~dx \]
lol @SolomonZelman So I guess your question wasn't really to find a way to integrate 1/x w.r.t x. by parts .
no, I was questioning the proof only.
proving 0=1 using by parts is similar to proving 0 = 4 in mod 4 : \[0 \equiv 4 \mod {4}\] error comes because of treating "congruence" as "identcally equal"
@freckles i think @SolomonZelman was refering to this q http://openstudy.com/users/Marki#/updates/54aa9adde4b05eecdbea5652
yes, indeed that question. Took time to find it, I would not be that kind if I were you, or probably wouldn't be.... that is very nice of you tnx.
Thanks @ganeshie8 . I was curious.
yeah searching through answered questions is a pain in the neck google finds the question quicker if you remember any special keywords in the thread : https://www.google.co.in/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#safe=off&q=site%3aopenstudy.com%20%22marki%22%2b%22parts%22%2b%22fake%22 :P
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