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OpenStudy (fibonaccichick666):

Has anyone had to deal with Pearson's CME Algebra 2 book? Do you have any tips on how to use it if you are forced to? How can it be made more age appropriate?

OpenStudy (fibonaccichick666):

@kropot72

Nnesha (nnesha):

CME= chocolate my eat switch it EMC= eat my chocolate

Nnesha (nnesha):

CME ???

OpenStudy (fibonaccichick666):

It's of the one curriculum they have. It's continuing math education I believe, but I mean in a book for high school students we have the phrase "proof left as exercise"

Nnesha (nnesha):

ohh okay

OpenStudy (dan815):

what grade kids learn alg 2?

OpenStudy (fibonaccichick666):

10th. It is supposed to be inequalities, complex numbers, exponents (just check out the khanacademy.org curriculum for it)

OpenStudy (fibonaccichick666):

The book requires a BA in math just to understand it

OpenStudy (fibonaccichick666):

I've had more readable abstract algebra b9oks

Nnesha (nnesha):

age doesn't matter :O u have to be mature hmmm yeah

Nnesha (nnesha):

u r in 10th grade :O u r very smart :)

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

do u have access to the book ?

OpenStudy (fibonaccichick666):

I mEan half of the concepts in this book were only covered in specialized upper level college courses. I don't get how I am supposed to teach from a book that is above the heads of anyone without a math degree

OpenStudy (fibonaccichick666):

Not online acess

OpenStudy (dan815):

if i were u id throw it all out i wud rebel against the system

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

http://gyazo.com/925d4814b24749f7543c73adb5018440

OpenStudy (dan815):

teach the kids what they need to learn

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

this is a pretty good book for self paced learning even for highschool students

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

but i guess algebra2 requires some background

OpenStudy (fibonaccichick666):

I have to make lesson plans out of this book for my classs, and that isn't the book

OpenStudy (dan815):

oh i see

OpenStudy (dan815):

do u have a lesson plan for any chapter yet, i wanna see wat its like

OpenStudy (fibonaccichick666):

No, I mean this book assumes a theoretical and practical knowledge of algebra 1

OpenStudy (fibonaccichick666):

I don't even know where to start

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

the one i attached is alg1syllabus.. i dont have access to alg2.. you may download lesson plans and use them as refereence http://www.mathmediator.net/php/alg2.php

OpenStudy (fibonaccichick666):

it is part of this program: cmeproject.edc.org

OpenStudy (fibonaccichick666):

essentially, this was the start of the rotten core program

OpenStudy (nicholausblackmon):

ACtually they are suppose to be learning geometry

OpenStudy (nicholausblackmon):

what. what type of school is this?

OpenStudy (fibonaccichick666):

Geometry is ninth grade for most kids.

OpenStudy (fibonaccichick666):

And just your basic public school

OpenStudy (nicholausblackmon):

no. geometry is basic for all kids in louisiana. Your school must be a step ahead

OpenStudy (nicholausblackmon):

well yea

OpenStudy (nicholausblackmon):

what are they having problems with?

OpenStudy (nicholausblackmon):

I would love to try and help

OpenStudy (fibonaccichick666):

No, there is more than one class and more than one level they can be in. The majority are in alg 2

OpenStudy (fibonaccichick666):

I mean there are seniors in algebra 2 sometimes, others are in calc 2 depends on the kid

OpenStudy (fibonaccichick666):

at least that is how I remember high school working in my bottom 15% of the state school

OpenStudy (kainui):

This is essentially extracurricular right? They won't be seeing this on standardized tests right? I think if you're teaching this you should try to enjoy it and not stress them or yourself out about it, just get them interested in math and have fun with some of it.

OpenStudy (fibonaccichick666):

but anyways, this is for my class, not real students.

OpenStudy (fibonaccichick666):

I am in a teaching class, and I will have to teach a lesson for non-math majors and my 35+years experience teacher

OpenStudy (fibonaccichick666):

The issue I am having is that the book she gave me gives me a headache due to the crazy crap they do. Like renaming stuff that doesn't need renamed or calling things the wrong name etc. I mean do you expect someone just learning algebra 2 to prove things you do in college number theory?

OpenStudy (kainui):

Just a single lesson? Then teach them an intro to complex numbers. Show them that it's really not much different than a number line, it's now just a number plane. Complex numbers are just rotations, so do a simple set of pictures and diagrams and blow them away with it I think would seem fun.

OpenStudy (fibonaccichick666):

I guess, picking a topic out of a book that requires background knowledge of things I can't guarentee they know(there are people who couldn't pass algebra 1 in this class)

OpenStudy (fibonaccichick666):

So I just, am at a loss for 1. Using this book(I don't want to. It sucks, I'd rather develop my own) 2. making something the general public would understand with no knowledge of number systems, and 3. this needs to be a 50 minute class, an intro will not cut it. They have to learn something more

OpenStudy (kainui):

Yeah it seems sort of awkward because you're trying to prepare a lesson for an audience that isn't your audience lol.

OpenStudy (fibonaccichick666):

Am i just overly anxious?

OpenStudy (fibonaccichick666):

like am i just overcomplicating it?

OpenStudy (kainui):

You sort of sound like you might be. How much will you be getting the class to participate?

OpenStudy (fibonaccichick666):

Not much, the introduction to the lesson is this part like 10 minutes, but then once we pick this topic we have to do the whole thing on it. So participation during the development stage of the lesson and synthesis stage will occur, but I need a topic from this highly theoretical book, that essentially requires no math knowledge to learn

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

Or start with knot theory or real analysis and teach them constructing real numbers using dedekind cuts or cauchy sequences :P

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

(jk)

OpenStudy (kainui):

Who's going to know if you are or aren't relying on the book? I doubt anyone will know the difference between what you're telling them and what's in that book that they're not going to read lol.

OpenStudy (fibonaccichick666):

lol

OpenStudy (fibonaccichick666):

the teacher of the class will, otherwise she wouldn't have given me it

OpenStudy (kainui):

Was your teacher ever a college level professor of mathematics?

OpenStudy (fibonaccichick666):

no, history and she has had math students many times before for this course

OpenStudy (fibonaccichick666):

I took a college course in place of algebra 2, so I don't even have a course to compare this to

OpenStudy (kainui):

I guess the key thing here is, what exactly are you being graded for? How important is this book in that? I mean what you lecture about and what is in the book in real life can be pretty separate things. I wouldn't let it weigh you down so much if you think that's what it's doing.

OpenStudy (fibonaccichick666):

I wanted to do exponents(one of my favorite things to teach) but that requires knowledge of the distributive, associative and commutative properties

OpenStudy (fibonaccichick666):

It's the audience combined with the book that's freaking me out I think

OpenStudy (kainui):

What's holding you back from teaching exponents?

OpenStudy (kainui):

This isn't a real class, just assume last class you taught them the distributive property etc... lol

OpenStudy (fibonaccichick666):

but what if only half of them understand that? What if I just have a bunch of blank stares? Most are english or bio majors

OpenStudy (fibonaccichick666):

then a history and aforeign language

OpenStudy (kainui):

They've heard of exponents before, they're in college.

OpenStudy (kainui):

Besides, is that really the goal here? Are you graded on teaching something or are you being graded on how you teach something?

OpenStudy (fibonaccichick666):

... before I got the book, i was tryng to come up with a topic, so I asked what math did you get to. 80% were like "as soon as they put letters in, I was lost"

OpenStudy (fibonaccichick666):

both, definitely both. The effectiveness of the teaching is graded very high

OpenStudy (kainui):

I think you're wrong and should talk to your teacher about this.

OpenStudy (kainui):

How should you be held accountable for whether or not they understand any math concepts? It's a teaching class, it seems like you should be graded on, "Was the speaker clear and concise?", etc...

OpenStudy (fibonaccichick666):

I don't have her till tuesday :/ we only got the assignment today, but I can't sleep. It's keeping me awake. This book makes me feel like an idiot, I swear.... They changed terminology and symbols and the processes so much that I can't just open it and understand what's written on the page

OpenStudy (fibonaccichick666):

and no, it would be nice if that was the case, but we are graded on how well we engage the students and what the students learned on top of that

OpenStudy (kainui):

You should email her and ask to meet during her office hours before then. You are completely capable, you're just freaking out. Try to relax a little, I'm sure you'll be fine.

OpenStudy (fibonaccichick666):

I mean have you ever heard of "Pippins and Cheese"?

OpenStudy (kainui):

lol no

OpenStudy (fibonaccichick666):

I mean the first chapter of this book was my set theory/analysis class for cripes sake

OpenStudy (fibonaccichick666):

How about "Lagrange Interpolation"?

OpenStudy (kainui):

Your teacher is going to fail you because you couldn't teach all these bio majors what Lagrange Interpolating polynomials are! Prepare for the storm.

OpenStudy (fibonaccichick666):

But this is why the chapter/section I choose is so important, but if any of them look at this book they are gonna be like WTF?? because it uses like set notation and things you don't learn until calc3 ish

OpenStudy (fibonaccichick666):

like when was the first time you saw this function is a mapping of R onto R

OpenStudy (kainui):

Good luck. I'll start digging the hole for your burial after your presentation. <3

OpenStudy (fibonaccichick666):

:) thanks. I just am still dumbfounded that this is a book used by schools

OpenStudy (fibonaccichick666):

granted, I cannot find a single review on it and it was done in 2008

OpenStudy (kainui):

On a scale of 1 to 10 how likely do you think your professor expects you to teach some kind of concept from Real Analysis?

OpenStudy (fibonaccichick666):

1 She expects a high school level class. My issue is, is this what high school teaches now? Is a BA in math the same knowledge you have when you finish high school now?

OpenStudy (kainui):

Look around you if you really want an idea what's being taught in schools. It's pretty clear I think. ;)

OpenStudy (fibonaccichick666):

I think I'll take your advice and do complex numbers, an intro and history type of thing

OpenStudy (fibonaccichick666):

haha good point

OpenStudy (fibonaccichick666):

i will say, I never touched the binomial thm till number theory though

OpenStudy (kainui):

I had touched Pascal's Triangle which in a sense you sort of start to see the binomial theorem if you multiply larger than a quadratic the pattern starts to shine through which is nice but not especially complicated honestly.

OpenStudy (kainui):

I think it's mostly the sigma notation and stuff that people get lost in, the idea in and of itself is simple.

OpenStudy (fibonaccichick666):

I've never covered Pascal's triangle sad as that may sound

OpenStudy (kainui):

I should teach you right now then, it's like worth your time!

OpenStudy (fibonaccichick666):

Ok!!

OpenStudy (fibonaccichick666):

side note, why are they calling an isomorphism an "Affine Transformation"?

OpenStudy (kainui):

|dw:1421225084371:dw| Just start the triangle out and it naturally follows, take the two numbers (nothing means 0) and add them up right below it. Then you can see that each row represents the coefficients on the terms when you multiply it out: \[\Large (x+y)^0=1 \\ \Large (x+y)^1 = 1x+1y \\ \Large (x+y)^2 = 1x^2 + 2xy+1y^2\]

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