HELP!!?? I will give a medal! Part A: Use the properties of exponents to explain why 81/3 is called the cube root of 8. (5 points) Part B: The length of a rectangle is 3 units and its width is √3 unit. Is the area of the rectangle rational or irrational? Justify your answer. (5 points)
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I doubt that 81/3 is a cube root of 8.
Well I don't know.. that's what the problem says.
I don't consider this question to be correct and complete (hope you know why).
8 and 1/3
\(\large\color{black}{ 8\frac{\LARGE 1}{\LARGE 3} }\) is still not a cube root of 8....
or do you mean, \(\large\color{black}{ 8^{\frac{\LARGE 1}{\LARGE 3}} }\) ?
Okay well that's what it says. I didn't make up the problem my teacher did.
Yes
\(\large\color{black}{ 8^{1/3} }\), is better;)
Okay
Well, there is a rule: \(\Large\color{black}{ \color{red}{A}^{\color{green}{B}/\color{blue}{C}} =\sqrt[\color{blue}{C}]{\color{red}{A}^\color{green}{B}} }\)
Apply this rule, to \(\Large\color{black}{ \color{red}{8}^{\color{green}{1}/\color{blue}{3}} }\)
go ahead..
don't be afraid to interrupt me. If you have problems with this, ask.
i can't type it out like that on my computer I have to type it out.. 3 square root 8 exponent 1... it probably doesn't make sense but I don't know how to word it
I can't type it out like you can
you mean, \(\Large\color{black}{\sqrt[\color{blue}{3}]{\color{red}{8}^\color{green}{1}} }\) ?
yes
(it is just codes, if you want we can spend some time learning THAT as well. Just if you wish)
Anyways, now we will finish the problem.
Okay
Oh, what a pain, excuse me, I lost connection for a second.
When you say, \(\Large\color{black}{ \sqrt[\color{blue}{3}]{\color{red}{8}^\color{green}{1}} }\) what number does absolutely not matter here?
1
yes, so \(\Large\color{black}{ \sqrt[\color{blue}{3}]{\color{red}{8}^\color{green}{1}} }\) is same as, \(\Large\color{black}{ \sqrt[\color{blue}{3}]{\color{red}{8}} }\)
Right
@SolomonZelman
So all we did is: \(\Large\color{black}{ \color{red}{8}^{\color{green}{1}/\color{blue}{3}}=\sqrt[\color{blue}{3}]{\color{red}{8}^\color{green}{1}}=\underline{\sqrt[\color{blue}{3}]{\color{red}{8}}} }\)
I am here. It is just a glitch that isn't showing that.
See the underlined part, what would you call it?
Are we dividing that by something?
just tell me what the underline part is called please.
I don't know
" cube root of eight " , ain't it so ?
\(\Large\color{black}{ \sqrt[\color{blue}{3}]{\color{red}{8}} }\) - CUBE ROOT OF EIGHT.
Okay...
God punshes me with the connection, sorry again
That's fine.
Grammar... anyways, Basically we did: \(\Large\color{black}{ \color{red}{8}^{\color{green}{1}/\color{blue}{3}}=\sqrt[\color{blue}{3}]{\color{red}{8}^\color{green}{1}}=\sqrt[\color{blue}{3}]{\color{red}{8}} }\)
So you can see that: \(\Large\color{black}{ \color{red}{8}^{\color{green}{1}/\color{blue}{3}}}\) is the same thing as \(\Large\color{black}{ \sqrt[\color{blue}{3}]{\color{red}{8}} }\)
Right.
I think you are done:)
Any questions about part A?
No I don't think so :)
no questions, so we can move on to PART B ?
Yes
Okay, firstly, is \(\large\color{slate}{ \sqrt{3} }\) a rational or irrational number ?
(If you happened not to know a definition of any terms I am using, then please don't hesitate to ask)
Irrational i am pretty sure..
@SolomonZelman
yes, correct.
Okay
length of a rectangle, lets see if I can draw it on here.... give me a sec.
\(\normalsize\color{royalblue}{ \rm FORMULA. }\) \(\huge\color{magenta}{ \rm L }\) \(\normalsize\color{ slate }{\Huge{\bbox[5pt, lightcyan ,border:2px solid black ]{ \color{lightcyan}{\Huge\frac{~~~~~~~~\frac{~}{~~~\frac{~\frac{}{}~}{~\frac{~}{~}}~~~~}~~~}{~\frac{\frac{~}{~\frac{~\frac{}{~}}{~}}~~}{~}~~} } }}}\) \(\huge\color{darkviolet}{ \rm W }\) \(\huge\color{blue}{ \rm A_{rectangle} = \color{magenta}{ \rm L }\times\color{darkviolet}{ \rm W } }\) \(\scriptsize\color{ slate }{\scriptsize{\bbox[5pt, royalblue ,border:2px solid royalblue ]{~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ }}}\)\(\scriptsize\color{ slate }{\scriptsize{\bbox[5pt, royalblue ,border:2px solid royalblue ]{~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ }}}\) \(\normalsize\color{royalblue}{ \rm IN~~YOUR~~CASE }\) \(\huge\color{magenta}{ \rm 3 }\) \(\normalsize\color{ slate }{\Huge{\bbox[5pt, lightcyan ,border:2px solid black ]{ \color{lightcyan}{\Huge\frac{~~~~~~~~\frac{~}{~~~\frac{~\frac{}{}~}{~\frac{~}{~}}~~~~}~~~}{~\frac{\frac{~}{~\frac{~\frac{}{~}}{~}}~~}{~}~~} } }}}\) \(\huge\color{darkviolet}{ \rm \sqrt{3} }\) \(\huge\color{blue}{ \rm A_{rectangle} = \color{magenta}{ \rm 3 }\times\color{darkviolet}{ \rm \sqrt{3} } }\)
So, do you think your area is a rational number, or not?
I don't think so..
So the area is rational, or the area is irrational?
Irrational..
(Just want to verify what you think)
Okay
Yes, irrational. Correct!
Have any questions ?
Okay :) how am I suppose to justify it? I just am not sure how to explain it
interesting, I know it, but I came into a somewhat thick wall trying to actually lay it out in simple words, so that it is easy to understand, let me think how to explain it....
You can take it as a definition, that \(\large\color{slate}{ \rm irrational~~number }\) \(\large\color{blue}{ \times }\) \(\large\color{slate}{ \rm (none-zero)~~rational~~number }\) is an irrational number.
I think I figured it out :)
When you for instance have: \(\large\color{slate}{ \sqrt{4}\times a}\) in order for the resulting product to be a rational number, then \(\large\color{slate}{ a}\) has to be \(\large\color{slate}{ \sqrt{4}}\) (this way you get 4), or \(\large\color{slate}{ a}\) has to be zero (this way you get 0).
Do you mind helping me with one more problem?
yes, maybe. Will see how my time goes.
It was nice helping you... btw, yw
I was going to say thank you....
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