what is the equation for the graph shown? PLEASE HELP
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OpenStudy (jskhupmang):
im not a teacher or a smartass but lets see if we can do together
OpenStudy (anonymous):
Ok..
OpenStudy (jskhupmang):
pretty much it looks just like quadrants
OpenStudy (jskhupmang):
so Im just gonna assume pie as x-axis
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
Ok
OpenStudy (jskhupmang):
f(x)= (x-6)(x-7)(x-8)
OpenStudy (jskhupmang):
now if you know how to multiply you can get the function of that in other words the equation
OpenStudy (anonymous):
I'm not entirely sure how I would do that, I really struggled with this and my teacher did not explain it well
OpenStudy (xapproachesinfinity):
that graph in not for a polynomial function
it is a circular function like sin cos tan...
that graph seems like tan
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
Yea @xapproachesinfinity that is what I thought so as well
OpenStudy (jskhupmang):
alright so the equation is f(x)=\[x ^{3}-21x ^{2}+146x-336\]
OpenStudy (anonymous):
I would be a trig function right?
OpenStudy (xapproachesinfinity):
but that equation does not have discontinuity
and our graph has a bunch of discontinuities
polynomial are defined \[\mathbb{R} \rightarrow \mathbb{R} \]
OpenStudy (xapproachesinfinity):
yes no doubt!
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
Ok so how would I complete it in terms of Tan
OpenStudy (xapproachesinfinity):
now the question is y=A tan(Bx-C)
what is A , B , C
OpenStudy (anonymous):
I'm not sure...
OpenStudy (jskhupmang):
a is 6pie b is 7pie c is 8pie?
OpenStudy (xapproachesinfinity):
eh i forgot it is gonna be of form y=Atan(Bx-C)+D
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OpenStudy (xapproachesinfinity):
hmm no where did you got that lol
OpenStudy (anonymous):
So I would have to find the amplitude and period? If so I have trouble with that as well
OpenStudy (perl):
in english
y=Amplitude*tan (Period/Pi *(x- phase shift)) + Vertical Shift
OpenStudy (xapproachesinfinity):
yes that's what you need to find
OpenStudy (anonymous):
I have trouble with finding the amplitude and period and phase shifts especially when it comes to graphs, do you guys mind helping me, I would love to learn how
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OpenStudy (xapproachesinfinity):
period of tan is pi
OpenStudy (anonymous):
Like how would I find the aplitude and phase shift and bring it all together to make an equation
OpenStudy (xapproachesinfinity):
i actually forgot how to get those! lol
check your book should have it
OpenStudy (jskhupmang):
so you just simply write 22/7 i guess
OpenStudy (anonymous):
The book does have it but sadly ut doesnt explain it well :(
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OpenStudy (xapproachesinfinity):
i haven't dealt with those forms for a while so forgot them hehe
OpenStudy (xapproachesinfinity):
check the youtube (video on how to do it)
OpenStudy (jskhupmang):
@perl aight we need your help here
OpenStudy (xapproachesinfinity):
or tag someone hehehe who is acquainted with this
OpenStudy (anonymous):
ok thanks for trying
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OpenStudy (xapproachesinfinity):
i need to do review of this stuff hehehe
but i'm sure it is not something really that hard just a pick on the book would do
OpenStudy (xapproachesinfinity):
good luck!
OpenStudy (xapproachesinfinity):
what course is this
OpenStudy (jskhupmang):
we appreciate your help @xapproachesinfinity
OpenStudy (anonymous):
Its PreCalc
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OpenStudy (xapproachesinfinity):
No problem ^_^
OpenStudy (jskhupmang):
wait a sec I have precalc txt brb
OpenStudy (anonymous):
ok
OpenStudy (xapproachesinfinity):
oh i see... well what book do you use?
OpenStudy (jskhupmang):
whats the content?
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
the content is graphs of trig functions
OpenStudy (jskhupmang):
Since my stuffs were packed i cant find my txtbook but I'll use online txt
jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):
perl has the right formula, but I'm not sure how to find the amplitude without more info. So I'm going to assume that amplitude = 1
OpenStudy (jskhupmang):
nevermind i need to take chill pill lol
OpenStudy (anonymous):
@jim_thompson5910 ok I have the y=Amplitude*tan (Period/Pi *(x- phase shift)) + Vertical Shift but I'm not sure how to move forward
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
@perl think you can help?
jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):
I think it's safe to assume that amplitude = 1 (unless there's other info that says otherwise)
jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):
what is the period in this case?
OpenStudy (xapproachesinfinity):
i would agree too^_^
OpenStudy (anonymous):
I'm not sure..
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jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):
notice how one root is 6pi, the next root over is 7pi
jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):
and how it repeats that branch
OpenStudy (anonymous):
Right..
jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):
so it repeats every _____ units
OpenStudy (anonymous):
1 unit?
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jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):
no, not 1 unit
jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):
but 1 times ______
OpenStudy (anonymous):
1 times pi?
jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):
or just pi, yes
jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):
it repeats every pi units
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jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):
we can see that with the roots
jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):
so period = pi
OpenStudy (anonymous):
ok amplitude is 1 and period is pi
OpenStudy (anonymous):
and the phase shift would be i'm guessing positive
OpenStudy (anonymous):
how would I bring all the information to make an equation
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jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):
using a calculator in radian mode, what is tan(6pi) equal to?
OpenStudy (anonymous):
ok let me quickly do that
OpenStudy (anonymous):
I got a decimal number...
jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):
you aren't in radian mode
OpenStudy (jskhupmang):
you should
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OpenStudy (jskhupmang):
i got 18.85
OpenStudy (jskhupmang):
in radian mode
OpenStudy (xapproachesinfinity):
that's not correct
OpenStudy (anonymous):
This graph cannot even exist it has several vertical asymtotes!!!
OpenStudy (jskhupmang):
sorry guys Im lost where are we now?
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
I cant figure out how to do radian mode on my calculator..
OpenStudy (xapproachesinfinity):
@Seran why not
it is periodic
tan have infinite asymptotes
OpenStudy (jskhupmang):
do you see mode button? press it then move it to radian then enter
OpenStudy (anonymous):
I'm trying to find it but I don't think my caluclator has one
OpenStudy (jskhupmang):
whats your calculator?
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jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):
what kind of calc do you have?
OpenStudy (jskhupmang):
if its not graphing cal TI 84 u might not have radian mode or degree
OpenStudy (anonymous):
I can't seem to get it...
OpenStudy (anonymous):
I keep getting the decimal @jim_thompson5910
OpenStudy (anonymous):
Any suggestions?
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jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):
what is your calculator model/type?
jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):
is it a texas instruments?
OpenStudy (jskhupmang):
its ok you should get decimal but we don't know whether you are radian or degree mode
OpenStudy (anonymous):
Ok texas insturment let me see if I have one I think I might hang in there guys sorry
jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):
what calculator were you using before?
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
nope I dont own one I was using a 10 digit scientific calculator