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OpenStudy (anonymous):

what is the equation for the graph shown? PLEASE HELP

OpenStudy (anonymous):

OpenStudy (jskhupmang):

im not a teacher or a smartass but lets see if we can do together

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Ok..

OpenStudy (jskhupmang):

pretty much it looks just like quadrants

OpenStudy (jskhupmang):

so Im just gonna assume pie as x-axis

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Ok

OpenStudy (jskhupmang):

f(x)= (x-6)(x-7)(x-8)

OpenStudy (jskhupmang):

now if you know how to multiply you can get the function of that in other words the equation

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I'm not entirely sure how I would do that, I really struggled with this and my teacher did not explain it well

OpenStudy (xapproachesinfinity):

that graph in not for a polynomial function it is a circular function like sin cos tan... that graph seems like tan

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Yea @xapproachesinfinity that is what I thought so as well

OpenStudy (jskhupmang):

alright so the equation is f(x)=\[x ^{3}-21x ^{2}+146x-336\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I would be a trig function right?

OpenStudy (xapproachesinfinity):

but that equation does not have discontinuity and our graph has a bunch of discontinuities polynomial are defined \[\mathbb{R} \rightarrow \mathbb{R} \]

OpenStudy (xapproachesinfinity):

yes no doubt!

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Ok so how would I complete it in terms of Tan

OpenStudy (xapproachesinfinity):

now the question is y=A tan(Bx-C) what is A , B , C

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I'm not sure...

OpenStudy (jskhupmang):

a is 6pie b is 7pie c is 8pie?

OpenStudy (xapproachesinfinity):

eh i forgot it is gonna be of form y=Atan(Bx-C)+D

OpenStudy (xapproachesinfinity):

hmm no where did you got that lol

OpenStudy (anonymous):

So I would have to find the amplitude and period? If so I have trouble with that as well

OpenStudy (perl):

in english y=Amplitude*tan (Period/Pi *(x- phase shift)) + Vertical Shift

OpenStudy (xapproachesinfinity):

yes that's what you need to find

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I have trouble with finding the amplitude and period and phase shifts especially when it comes to graphs, do you guys mind helping me, I would love to learn how

OpenStudy (xapproachesinfinity):

period of tan is pi

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Like how would I find the aplitude and phase shift and bring it all together to make an equation

OpenStudy (xapproachesinfinity):

i actually forgot how to get those! lol check your book should have it

OpenStudy (jskhupmang):

so you just simply write 22/7 i guess

OpenStudy (anonymous):

The book does have it but sadly ut doesnt explain it well :(

OpenStudy (xapproachesinfinity):

i haven't dealt with those forms for a while so forgot them hehe

OpenStudy (xapproachesinfinity):

check the youtube (video on how to do it)

OpenStudy (jskhupmang):

@perl aight we need your help here

OpenStudy (xapproachesinfinity):

or tag someone hehehe who is acquainted with this

OpenStudy (anonymous):

ok thanks for trying

OpenStudy (xapproachesinfinity):

i need to do review of this stuff hehehe but i'm sure it is not something really that hard just a pick on the book would do

OpenStudy (xapproachesinfinity):

good luck!

OpenStudy (xapproachesinfinity):

what course is this

OpenStudy (jskhupmang):

we appreciate your help @xapproachesinfinity

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Its PreCalc

OpenStudy (xapproachesinfinity):

No problem ^_^

OpenStudy (jskhupmang):

wait a sec I have precalc txt brb

OpenStudy (anonymous):

ok

OpenStudy (xapproachesinfinity):

oh i see... well what book do you use?

OpenStudy (jskhupmang):

whats the content?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

the content is graphs of trig functions

OpenStudy (jskhupmang):

Since my stuffs were packed i cant find my txtbook but I'll use online txt

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

perl has the right formula, but I'm not sure how to find the amplitude without more info. So I'm going to assume that amplitude = 1

OpenStudy (jskhupmang):

nevermind i need to take chill pill lol

OpenStudy (anonymous):

@jim_thompson5910 ok I have the y=Amplitude*tan (Period/Pi *(x- phase shift)) + Vertical Shift but I'm not sure how to move forward

OpenStudy (anonymous):

@perl think you can help?

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

I think it's safe to assume that amplitude = 1 (unless there's other info that says otherwise)

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

what is the period in this case?

OpenStudy (xapproachesinfinity):

i would agree too^_^

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I'm not sure..

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

notice how one root is 6pi, the next root over is 7pi

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

and how it repeats that branch

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Right..

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

so it repeats every _____ units

OpenStudy (anonymous):

1 unit?

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

no, not 1 unit

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

but 1 times ______

OpenStudy (anonymous):

1 times pi?

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

or just pi, yes

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

it repeats every pi units

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

we can see that with the roots

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

so period = pi

OpenStudy (anonymous):

ok amplitude is 1 and period is pi

OpenStudy (anonymous):

and the phase shift would be i'm guessing positive

OpenStudy (anonymous):

how would I bring all the information to make an equation

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

using a calculator in radian mode, what is tan(6pi) equal to?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

ok let me quickly do that

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I got a decimal number...

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

you aren't in radian mode

OpenStudy (jskhupmang):

you should

OpenStudy (jskhupmang):

i got 18.85

OpenStudy (jskhupmang):

in radian mode

OpenStudy (xapproachesinfinity):

that's not correct

OpenStudy (anonymous):

This graph cannot even exist it has several vertical asymtotes!!!

OpenStudy (jskhupmang):

sorry guys Im lost where are we now?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I cant figure out how to do radian mode on my calculator..

OpenStudy (xapproachesinfinity):

@Seran why not it is periodic tan have infinite asymptotes

OpenStudy (jskhupmang):

do you see mode button? press it then move it to radian then enter

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I'm trying to find it but I don't think my caluclator has one

OpenStudy (jskhupmang):

whats your calculator?

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

what kind of calc do you have?

OpenStudy (jskhupmang):

if its not graphing cal TI 84 u might not have radian mode or degree

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I can't seem to get it...

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I keep getting the decimal @jim_thompson5910

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Any suggestions?

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

what is your calculator model/type?

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

is it a texas instruments?

OpenStudy (jskhupmang):

its ok you should get decimal but we don't know whether you are radian or degree mode

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Ok texas insturment let me see if I have one I think I might hang in there guys sorry

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

what calculator were you using before?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

nope I dont own one I was using a 10 digit scientific calculator

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

ok for now we can use wolfram alpha http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=tan(6pi)

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