Help solving this rational expression..
\[\frac{ x+3 }{ x-3 }+\frac{ x }{ x-5 }=\frac{ x+5 }{ x-5 }\]
@Nnesha
I multiplied the first fraction by x-5 and the second by x-3
I added it, crossed multiply, but this doesn't like right..
@DanJS
you could do that, or you could multiply both sides by \((x-3)(x-5)\) to get rid of the fractions
Could you help me with my method? That's what I usually do.
frist multiply by each different factor top and bottom and then when the denominators are the same you can add or subtract
That's what i did
well what did you get?
\[\frac{ x^2-2x-15 }{ x^2-8x+15 }+\frac{ x^2-3x }{ x^2-8x+15 }=\frac{ x+5 }{ x-5 }\]
now you can simply combine like terms the top
Ok I got
\[\frac{ 2x^2-5x-15 }{ x^2-8x+15 }=\frac{ x+5 }{ x-5 }\]
right?
wait a sec
actually you were wrong for the second factor I think. How did you get x^2-3x??
x(x-3)
oh ok
Any more thoughts? lol
ya how about just like the factors both top and bottom
so you might be able to cross out
wait what was the question are we supposed to solve for x?
yes..
@satellite73
do think would it work if multiply both sides by (x-5) to get rid of it
both sides of what
@freckles
If I did this correctly i'm just stuck at
I dont think this is factorable
i believe so I don't know either lol
2x^2.... is not factorable with rational number
I dont know if it would work with replacement
do you have the answer choice?
The answer is 0,7. Just don't know how they got there.
x=0 and x=7 right?
mhm
give me a sec let me replace those value for x and see if its true
it works :(
I think the easiest way was to have initially aimed to clear your problem of fractions.
@AriPotta
How do I do that?
Can you get the solution just from my method?
Multiply both sides by the lcm of the bottoms ... I will have to look at your way on the desktop.
(x-3)(x-5), how will this remove fractions?
Things cancel when you divide something by itself
Can you draw it or use equation? Not quite seeing it
Oh, wait
Never mind
I know what your saying
yo how about subtract to make the other equal zero!!!
from where we left off
need help ??
@freckles Would you say it's always a better idea to use that method instead of mine?
yes :p
\[\frac{ x+3 }{ x-3 }+\frac{ x }{ x-5 }=\frac{ x+5 }{ x-5 } \\ \text{ multiply both sides by } (x-3)(x-5) \\ (x+3)(x-5)+x(x-3)=(x+5)(x-3)\]
Yup, and I'm left off with x^2-7x x(x-7) x=7,0 :D
so probably it gonna be like this \[(2x^2-5x-15)/(x-5)(x-3) - (x+5)/(x-5)=0\]
\[(x+3)(x-5)=(x-3)(x+5)-(x-3)x \\ (x+3)(x-5)=(x-3)[x+5-x] \\ (x+3)(x-5)=(x-3)5 \\ (x+3)(x-5)=5x-15 \\ x^2-2x-15=5x-15 \\ x^2-2x-5x=0\] yes it results into that exactly
now I guess you were just combining fractions?
x(x-7)
x(x-7)/(x-5)(x-3) = 0
Thanks everyone
i will post later other method that u posted above^^ bec of lag <--- take too much time to load pate
so you understand it now? @dtan5457
page *** not pate :P
ok @Nnesha
so you got here: \[\frac{ x+3 }{ x-3 }+\frac{ x }{ x-5 }=\frac{ x+5 }{ x-5 } \] \[ \frac{(x+3)(x-5)}{(x-3)(x-5)}+\frac{x(x-3)}{(x-3)(x-5)}=\frac{x+5}{x-5}\] \[\frac{x^2-2x-15+x^2-3x}{x^2-8x+15}=\frac{x+5}{x-5}\] \[\frac{2x^2-5x-15}{x^2-8x+15}=\frac{x+5}{x-5}\] You can do this thing that people like to call cross multiplication (really it is just multiplying stuff ) \[(2x^2-5x-15)(x-5)=(x^2-8x+15)(x+5)\] \[2x^3-10x^2-5x^2+25x-15x+75= \\ x^3+5x^2-8x^2-40x+15x+75\] \[x^3-15x^2+3x^2+65x-30x=0\] \[x^3-12x^2+35x=0\] \[x(x^2-12x+35)=0\] \[x(x-7)(x-5)=0\]
This is the way I think you intended to go about it
you get x=0 or x=7 or x=5 but x=5 can't be a solution anyhow because it isn't in the domain of the original equation
How did you know 5 isn't in the domain?
do you know in the orginial equation you have x-5 and x-3 in the denominators right?
yes
if we have gotten x=3 or x=5 we would know either of these would be a contradiction
because we cannot divide by 0
Ohh
Got it
definitely going to use your first method though, a ton easier
well there is another variant of your way if you want to see that too but it is kinda close to what we did in the method I prefer
so you found a common denominator for one side you could do it for both sides though
find a common denominator for both sides
then cross out?
\[\frac{ x+3 }{ x-3 }+\frac{ x }{ x-5 }=\frac{ x+5 }{ x-5 } \] like you multiply first fraction by (x-5)/(x-5) second fraction by (x-3)/(x-3) and we will do the third fraction by (x-3)/(x-3) -- this was we will have the bottom on both sides and all we have to do is set the tops equal to each other like this: \[\frac{x+3}{x-3} \frac{x-5}{x-5}+\frac{x}{x-5} \frac{x-3}{x-3}=\frac{x+5}{x-5} \frac{x-3}{x-3} \\ \frac{(x+3)(x-5)+x(x-3)}{(x-3)(x-5)}=\frac{(x+5)(x-3)}{(x-3)(x-5)} \\ \text{ set tops equal }\]
we will have the same bottoms on both side*
(x+3)(x-5)+x(x-3)=(x+5)(x-3) but this is gives the exact same equation that one method gives
I see. Still gonna use the first method though
lol ok :)
Thanks :)
np :)
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