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OpenStudy (anonymous):
Find the derivative algebraically using the difference quotient: q(x) = x^-2 at x=2
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OpenStudy (xapproachesinfinity):
is that \[\large q(x)=x^{-2}\]
OpenStudy (anonymous):
yes
OpenStudy (xapproachesinfinity):
the diffrence quotient is :
\[\large \frac{f(x)-f(2)}{x-2}\]
OpenStudy (xapproachesinfinity):
that's what you need to find out with limit:
\[\Large \lim_{x\to2}\frac{f(x)-f(2)}{x-2}=?\]
OpenStudy (anonymous):
I thought the difference quotient is \[\frac{ f(x+h)-f(x) }{ h } \]
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OpenStudy (xapproachesinfinity):
well that's the same thing my friend
OpenStudy (anonymous):
\[I got this far but I can't solve the rest: \frac{ -4-h }{ 4h^2+6h+16 }\]
OpenStudy (xapproachesinfinity):
if you want that way it would be \[\large \lim_{h\to0}\frac{f(2+h)-f(2)}{h}\]
OpenStudy (xapproachesinfinity):
what did you use?
OpenStudy (anonymous):
But it is x^-2 not x^2
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OpenStudy (xapproachesinfinity):
i'm giving the definition didn't do anything yet my friend
OpenStudy (anonymous):
oh, okay
OpenStudy (xapproachesinfinity):
you are miss using the definition
OpenStudy (xapproachesinfinity):
try to use the one i just wrote
OpenStudy (anonymous):
using what you gave me I got: \[\frac{ \frac{ 1 }{ (2+h)^2 }-\frac{ 1 }{ 4 } }{ h }\]
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OpenStudy (xapproachesinfinity):
okay simplify
OpenStudy (anonymous):
\[\frac{ \frac{ -(4+4h+h^2)+4 }{ (4+4h+h^2)4 } }{ h }\]
OpenStudy (xapproachesinfinity):
go further...
OpenStudy (xapproachesinfinity):
carry some cancelations
OpenStudy (anonymous):
that is why I typed that thing earlier
I simplified and got to that point and got stuck
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OpenStudy (xapproachesinfinity):
well still need to go further... open perenthesis on top and see what can yu spot
OpenStudy (anonymous):
\[Simplified \to \frac{ -4-h }{ 16+6h+4h^2 }\]
OpenStudy (misty1212):
algebra algebra all is algebra...
OpenStudy (xapproachesinfinity):
o don't think so forgot that part and thing about the one you typed just now
OpenStudy (xapproachesinfinity):
-4-4h-h^2+4 ?
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OpenStudy (xapproachesinfinity):
that's the first thing to spot
OpenStudy (xapproachesinfinity):
see what you can cancel
OpenStudy (xapproachesinfinity):
@misty1212 pls let him do this :)
OpenStudy (anonymous):
-4h-h^2
OpenStudy (anonymous):
h(4-h)
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OpenStudy (xapproachesinfinity):
not quite h(-4-h)
OpenStudy (xapproachesinfinity):
no cancel h top and bottom
OpenStudy (anonymous):
I've gotten to that part
OpenStudy (xapproachesinfinity):
you got incorrect math in there
OpenStudy (xapproachesinfinity):
\[\large \frac{-4-h}{4(2+h)^2}\] oh i see you got to this point
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OpenStudy (xapproachesinfinity):
well you need to bring that limit
OpenStudy (xapproachesinfinity):
this is jut difference quotient
we need limit to make it derivative
OpenStudy (xapproachesinfinity):
so take the limit:
\[\large \lim_{h\to0}\frac{-4-h}{4(2+h)^2}\]
OpenStudy (anonymous):
When I canceled the h from the top and bottom I got:
\[\frac{ -4-h }{ (4+4+h^2)4 }\]
OpenStudy (anonymous):
wait
h not h^2
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OpenStudy (xapproachesinfinity):
no cancelation anymore
do the limit i just wrote
i said it appears you got the right thing from the beginning
OpenStudy (xapproachesinfinity):
you just had some errors, some number were not correct in denominator
OpenStudy (anonymous):
so I don't have to cancel anymore?
OpenStudy (xapproachesinfinity):
no further cancelation there is nothing to cancel anymore
just do the limit
OpenStudy (anonymous):
oh okay, I see now...So I did have it right earlier I just needed to find the limit?
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OpenStudy (xapproachesinfinity):
yes sort of, you got the number in the bottom incorrect
but other than that it is fine
OpenStudy (anonymous):
so the limit is -1/4
OpenStudy (xapproachesinfinity):
\[\lim_{h\to0}\frac{-4-h}{4(2+h)^2}\] you did this limit?
OpenStudy (anonymous):
yes
OpenStudy (xapproachesinfinity):
how its -1/4?
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OpenStudy (xapproachesinfinity):
oh i'm blind hehe you are correct
OpenStudy (xapproachesinfinity):
forgot to the power 2 lol
OpenStudy (anonymous):
\[\frac{ -4-(0) }{ 4(2+0)^2 }\]
OpenStudy (xapproachesinfinity):
yes its correct :) i was not paying attention enough
OpenStudy (anonymous):
sigh...so did I do it correctly before when I wrote
\[\frac{ -4-h }{ 16+6h+4h^2 }\]
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OpenStudy (xapproachesinfinity):
well the bottom was 4(2+h)^2=16+16h+4h^2
OpenStudy (xapproachesinfinity):
i said you got a math error and that's fine
OpenStudy (anonymous):
oh I see where I got the error
OpenStudy (xapproachesinfinity):
I'm lagging sorry the website is bad again hehe
OpenStudy (anonymous):
I have it written correctly on paper but when I translated it to the computer I wrote 16 instead of 6
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
Okay.. thank you
OpenStudy (xapproachesinfinity):
we can check if our result is good:
\[\large f'(x)=-2x^{-3}=-2/x^3\]
so \[\large f'(2)=-2/8=-1/4\]
OpenStudy (xapproachesinfinity):
you are welcome!