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OpenStudy (itiaax):

Population growth/geometric series help. *question attached below

OpenStudy (itiaax):

So can someone just explain to me how to do this question. All I want is a guide and then I'll tackle it :)

OpenStudy (solomonzelman):

so, you would subtract 100 before you add a 20% increase. (Since 100 ppl. leave on Dec 31, and the year isn't yet over).

OpenStudy (solomonzelman):

The entire value is \(\large\color{navy}{ 100\text{%} }\). And \(\large\color{navy}{ +20\text{%} }\) means \(\large\color{navy}{ 120\text{%} }\). So you are taking \(\large\color{navy}{ 120\text{%} }\) each time. That means, you are multiplying times \(\large\color{navy}{ 1.2 }\) every time. \(\large\color{navdy}{ ( }\) i.e. \(\large\color{navy}{ r=1.2 }\) \(\large\color{navdy}{ ) }\)

OpenStudy (solomonzelman):

can you (simply) find \(\large\color{navy}{ p_1 }\) \(\large\color{navdy}{ ( }\) i.e the population after the first year \(\large\color{navdy}{ ) }\) ?

OpenStudy (itiaax):

Let me attempt it

OpenStudy (itiaax):

1000(1.2)-100 = 1100

OpenStudy (solomonzelman):

as I said, 100 people leave before the year is over. So your order of operations is off.

OpenStudy (itiaax):

(1000-100)(1.2)?

OpenStudy (solomonzelman):

you first subtract 100 \(\large\color{navdy}{ ( }\)i.e \(\large\color{navy}{ 100 }\) people leave on Dec 31\(\large\color{navdy}{ )}\)

OpenStudy (solomonzelman):

yes, the last thing you said is right.

OpenStudy (itiaax):

So p1=1080

OpenStudy (solomonzelman):

yes.

OpenStudy (solomonzelman):

now, the same way, find \(\large\color{navy}{ {\rm p}_2 }\) \(\large\color{navdy}{ ( }\) starting from \(\large\color{navy}{ {\rm p}_1 }\) \(\large\color{navdy}{ ) }\)

OpenStudy (itiaax):

(1080-100)(1.2)=1176

OpenStudy (solomonzelman):

\(\large\color{navy}{ \left({\rm p}_1 -100\right)\times1.2 }\) \(\large\color{navy}{ \left(1080 -100\right)\times1.2 }\) yes correct.

OpenStudy (solomonzelman):

Now, you need part B.

OpenStudy (solomonzelman):

what pattern do you see? \(\large\color{navy}{ (}\) Saying, what is the pattern we used to go: 1) from \(\large\color{navy}{ {\rm p}_0 }\) to \(\large\color{navy}{ {\rm p}_1 }\) 2) from \(\large\color{navy}{ {\rm p}_1 }\) to \(\large\color{navy}{ {\rm p}_2 }\) \(\large\color{navy}{ )}\)

OpenStudy (solomonzelman):

Hint: `you are subtracting 100 and then multiplying times 1.2 `

OpenStudy (solomonzelman):

It just wants the relation between \(\large\color{navy}{ {\rm p}_{n+1} }\) and \(\large\color{navy}{ {\rm p}_{n} }\)

OpenStudy (itiaax):

From P0 to P1: (P0-100)(1.2) From P1 to P2: (P1-100)(1.2)

OpenStudy (solomonzelman):

yes, so....

OpenStudy (itiaax):

So now: Pn+1= (Pn-100)(1.2) ?

OpenStudy (solomonzelman):

yes, for part b, it is: \(\large\color{navy}{ {\rm p}_{n+1} =\left({\rm p}_{n}-100\right)\times1.2}\)

OpenStudy (solomonzelman):

Now, part C, the most complicated one.

OpenStudy (solomonzelman):

I am not very sure how to prove this, i might want to think a bit more...

OpenStudy (itiaax):

No problem! I'll be thinking of something too

OpenStudy (solomonzelman):

what do they want you to do, when they ask you to show it? Do they want to plug in values into both patterns and evaluating the \(\large\color{navy}{ {\rm p}_{\rm something}}\) ?

OpenStudy (itiaax):

I guess they want us to use steps to finally arrive at Pn, considering the question is worth 6 marks

OpenStudy (solomonzelman):

I was incorrect most likely. http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=500%281.2%29%5E1%2B500%3D%281000-100%29%281.2%29%5E1

OpenStudy (solomonzelman):

this pattern in part C is wrong according to what I said (for n=1 at least), so I guess you subtract 100 after multiplying

OpenStudy (solomonzelman):

\(\large\color{royalblue}{ {\rm p}_1=(1000\times1.2) -100 =1100 }\) ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ \(\large\color{royalblue}{ {\rm p}_2=(1100\times1.2) -100 =1220 }\)

OpenStudy (solomonzelman):

\(\large\color{royalblue}{ {\rm p}_{n+1} =\left({\rm p}_{n} \times 1.2\right) -100 }\)

OpenStudy (itiaax):

But if we use the formula given in C, it doesn't add up :S

OpenStudy (solomonzelman):

what do you mean?

OpenStudy (itiaax):

Ahh, sorry. I made a mistake. You are correct.

OpenStudy (solomonzelman):

you are made a mistake saying that I was correct.... (lol) yes, you are subtracting 100 after multiplying times 1.2

OpenStudy (solomonzelman):

Or else, then the terms get smaller and smaller.

OpenStudy (solomonzelman):

\(\large\color{royalblue}{ {\rm p}_{n+1} =\left({\rm p}_{n} \times 1.2\right) -100 }\)

OpenStudy (solomonzelman):

Now, we need to show that: \(\large\color{royalblue}{ {\rm p}_{n+1} =500\left(1.2 \right)^n+500 }\) it is still hard, but not as hard.

OpenStudy (itiaax):

Hmm

OpenStudy (solomonzelman):

I can't really think of anything besides observing how each pattern goes.

OpenStudy (solomonzelman):

What I mean is, just to plug in vlaues into both patterns.

OpenStudy (solomonzelman):

I will try one more time...

OpenStudy (solomonzelman):

I got some latex I am on my way

OpenStudy (itiaax):

No problemo :)

OpenStudy (solomonzelman):

\(\large\color{royalblue}{ \displaystyle {\rm p}_1}\) \(\large\color{royalblue}{ \displaystyle (1000)(1.2)-100}\) \(\large\color{royalblue}{ \displaystyle (500)(1.2)+(500)(1.2)-100}\) \(\large\color{royalblue}{ \displaystyle (500)(1.2)+600-100}\) \(\large\color{royalblue}{ \displaystyle (500)(1.2)+500}\) \(\large\color{royalblue}{ \displaystyle {\rm p}_2}\) \(\large\color{royalblue}{ \displaystyle ((500)(1.2)+500)(1.2)-100}\) \(\large\color{royalblue}{ \displaystyle ((500)(1.2)^2+600)-100}\) \(\large\color{royalblue}{ \displaystyle (500)(1.2)^2+600-100}\) \(\large\color{royalblue}{ \displaystyle (500)(1.2)^2+500}\) \(\large\color{royalblue}{ \displaystyle {\rm p}_3}\) \(\large\color{royalblue}{ \displaystyle ((500)(1.2)^2+500)(1.2)-100}\) \(\large\color{royalblue}{ \displaystyle ((500)(1.2)^3+600)-100}\) \(\large\color{royalblue}{ \displaystyle (500)(1.2)^3+600-100}\) \(\large\color{royalblue}{ \displaystyle (500)(1.2)^3+500}\) \(\large\color{royalblue}{ \displaystyle (500)(1.2)+500}\) ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ \(\large\color{royalblue}{ \displaystyle \sum_{ n=1 }^{ \infty }\left[ ~~500(1.2^n)+500\color{white}{{\huge|}} \right] }\)

OpenStudy (solomonzelman):

so you can see the pattern here is that each time the power to 1.2 gets added , and the +500 remains same.

OpenStudy (solomonzelman):

and the \(\large\color{royalblue}{ \displaystyle \sum_{ n=1 }^{ \infty }\left[ ~~500(1.2^n)+500\color{white}{{\huge|}} \right] }\) is what the pattern sums to.

OpenStudy (solomonzelman):

Sorry it took too long for me to figure out.... but once you know that: 1) \(\large\color{slate}{a(b+c)~~~~~\Longrightarrow~~~~~ab+ac }\) 2) \(\large\color{slate}{500\cdot1.2=600 }\) 3) \(\large\color{slate}{(1.2)^{anything}~~~\cdot(1.2)=(1.2)^{anything+1} }\) it shouldn't be hard.

OpenStudy (solomonzelman):

go over my comments, carefully, tnx and apologize for my brainless ness. I am not good at math.

OpenStudy (solomonzelman):

there is a typo when I said \(\large\color{slate}{p_3 }\) in a last line

OpenStudy (solomonzelman):

it should have 1.2^3

OpenStudy (solomonzelman):

are you clear with what I said for part C?

OpenStudy (itiaax):

Thank you very much! I'm looking them over now and I'm definitely understanding. And you're so smart to have come up with this! Many thanks again!

OpenStudy (itiaax):

Yes, I am very clear :)

OpenStudy (solomonzelman):

It is just a sigma.. the pattern is like this... don't know why I struggled so much with this prob. Yw

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