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OpenStudy (anonymous):

Question about FCT?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I so far found the antiderivatives to get g(x).

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

I think you meant "FTC" for "fundamental theorem of calculus"

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

you're basically using FTC part 1, which says If \[\Large g(x) = \int_{0}^{x}f(t)dt\] then \[\Large g'(x) = f(x)\]

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

it's possible that the endpoints of the intervals change from closed to open but I'm not 100% sure on that

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

oh nvm, it says nothing about finding the derivative of g

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Okay

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

but yes you'll find the antiderivatives and use the second part of the FTC, which is \[\Large \int_{a}^{b}f(x)dx = F(b) - F(a)\] where F ' = f

OpenStudy (anonymous):

okay, so far I've got g(x)= 0 if x<0, 1/2 * x^2 if 0<x<1, 2x-1.2*x^2 if 1<x<2, 0 if x>2

OpenStudy (anonymous):

However, I'm just confused on if I should add a c two the second and third part of the piece wise function...

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Thank you for helping me so far :)

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

you should have \[\LARGE g(x) = \begin{cases} C \ \text{ if } x < 0 \\ \frac{x^2}{2} \ \text{ if } 0 \le x \le 1 \\ 2x-\frac{x^2}{2} \ \text{ if } 1 < x \le 2 \\ D \ \text{ if } x > 2 \\ \end{cases} \] C and D are constants

OpenStudy (anonymous):

would it be x^2/2 + C?

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

oh right, forgot about the middle constants, let me redo

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

\[ \LARGE g(x) = \begin{cases} C_{1} \ \text{ if } x < 0 \\ \frac{x^2}{2}+C_{2} \ \text{ if } 0 \le x \le 1 \\ 2x-\frac{x^2}{2}+C_{3} \ \text{ if } 1 < x \le 2 \\ C_{4} \ \text{ if } x > 2 \\ \end{cases} \] C1 through C4 are constants

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Alrighty, now how would we graph this? Can I state that C can equal zero and this will not affect the shape of the graph but only the vertical location of the graph?

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

although, when you use FTC part 2, I think the middle constants C2 and C3 will subtract and cancel out the same may happen with C1 and C4. I'm not sure about that though

OpenStudy (anonymous):

How does it cancel out?

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

if so, then you'd be left with \[ \LARGE g(x) = \begin{cases} 0 \ \text{ if } x < 0 \\ \frac{x^2}{2} \ \text{ if } 0 \le x \le 1 \\ 2x-\frac{x^2}{2} \ \text{ if } 1 < x \le 2 \\ 0 \ \text{ if } x > 2 \\ \end{cases} \]

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

well let's say that f(x) = x the antiderivative is F(x) = (x^2)/2 + C then use FTC part 2 to evaluate. Using FTC 2 means we use this property \[\Large \int_{a}^{b}f(x)dx = F(b) - F(a)\]

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

when we get to the F(b) - F(a) part, the constants cancel (since you're subtracting C1 from itself, for instance)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I'm still not understanding... So we subtract the different parts of the piece wise function? Could you maybe give me an example please ? :)

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

let's use f(x) = x as an example

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Jim, would the equations in g(x) be considered integrals? The problem states to not include them in g(x) *worry face*

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

actually let f(t) = t \[\Large \int_{0}^{x}f(t)dt\] \[\Large \int_{0}^{x}tdt\] \[\Large \left. \frac{t^2}{2}+C\right]_{0}^{x}\] \[\Large \left[\frac{x^2}{2}+C\right]-\left[\frac{0^2}{2}+C\right]\] \[\Large \frac{x^2}{2}+C-\frac{0^2}{2}-C\] \[\Large \frac{x^2}{2}\]

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

so hopefully you can see how \[\Large \int_{0}^{x}f(t)dt = \Large \frac{x^2}{2}\] and how the constant canceled

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Yes, i see now!

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

so that's what I think is happening with each sub-interval (and each antiderivative)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Then you simply just graph f(x) and g(x) on those intervals?

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

yes correct

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

if you want, you can plot points for g(x) to generate points for g(x), you simply record the area under the curve from 0 to x (under f(x))

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Wait so we would be follow the equation we made for g(x) to make the graph of it?

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

that is another alternative, yes

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Alright, thank you Jim.

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

you're welcome

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