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OpenStudy (anonymous):

Help with stat please! I need to make sure i;m on the right track. http://jdanforth.weebly.com/uploads/1/2/3/7/12370684/7.2_quiz.pdf

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

This is a quiz, so I'll only be able to offer hints. What was your question?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

It's not an actual quiz, its just the worksheets she gives us and I happened to find a pdf for it. On number 1, how would you format the answers (.22 and .0338) into sentence format? Also on #2, how would you know if its normally distributed other than the 10% rule or is that it?

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

ok one sec

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

you're referring to 1a) right? or something else?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yes

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

you have the correct answers I'd just fit them into a sentence like this "the mean is ____ and the standard deviation is ___" I guess you can be creative and say something like "the center is located at ____ and the sampling distribution has a standard deviation of ____ which determines how spread out the sampling distribution is" I'm not sure, but something like that

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Ah okay! Sometimes our teacher prefers to put it in context of the problem but I wasnt really sure how to do it that way.

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

well I guess you could say "the average percentage is centered around 22% and it's spread out with a standard deviation of 3.38%"

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

usually when it comes to describing percentages, and how they are spread out, you use a margin of error. But we need a confidence level for that.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Ah okay. And for the 1D, how would you find that? I know the formula for SD and the mean but not sure how to apply it here for these requirements

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

let me think about 1D, one sec

OpenStudy (anonymous):

thank you

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

ok I found this http://courses.wcupa.edu/rbove/Berenson/10th%20ed%20CD-ROM%20topics/section7_3.pdf do you see the formula in the second blue box? hopefully that formula looks familiar

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I have actually ever seen that formula before! But I'll tr to figure it out.

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

well that formula allows you to calculate the standard error if you are dealing with a finite population (usually relatively small)

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

standard error = std dev of sampling distribution

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

actually, sorry, you're using the formula for box 3

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

not box 2

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

can I ask what method they show in the textbook?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I cant find where they did it in the textbook...

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

ok on that pdf I sent you, do you see where it says at the top of page 1 "In these cases, particularly when the sample size n is not small in comparison with the population size N (i.e., more than 5% of the population is sampled) so that n/N > 0.05, a finite population correction factor (fpc) is used to define both the standard error of the mean and the standard error of the proportion"

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

so I'm thinking that IF the sample size n is too big, then you have to use that finite population correction factor (fpc) If it is not too big, then you can get away without using the fpc

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

n/N > 0.05 n/600 > 0.05 600*(n/600) > 0.05*600 n > 30 So if n > 30, then you have to use the fpc. If n <= 30, then you can get away without using the fpc

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I'm not seeing how it applies but also I'm not sure if I should use that given its nowhere at all in my text book :x We can skip to the last one for now, which I'm also having trouble with (2b). I keep getting 0 on the calculator using normcdf

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

well since I got n > 30 leads to using the fpc, I'm thinking 30 is the max on the sample size

OpenStudy (anonymous):

that makes a bit of sense. I'll try to sort it out in my brain in a minute (Its past 12 here and I'm exhausted)

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

how are you typing things in for 2b?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I just got that one! :)

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

ok great

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yep. thank you so much by the way cx

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

you're welcome

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