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OpenStudy (dtan5457):

Question about polyatomic ions..

OpenStudy (dtan5457):

Ammonia for example, in my book which is NH4- Can also be expressed as NH3? Your allowed to change it around as long as the charge is neutral?

OpenStudy (dtan5457):

@dan815 @Jhannybean

OpenStudy (jhannybean):

Oh I'm not really sure about that. All I know is that ammonium is written as \(\sf NH_4^+\)

OpenStudy (jhannybean):

And Ammonia is \(\sf NH_3^+\)

OpenStudy (dtan5457):

there's a difference?

OpenStudy (jhannybean):

Mmhmm.

OpenStudy (dtan5457):

I have a problem where the book states to balance ammonia(g)+oxygen(g)>>nitrogen monoxide(g)+water (l)

OpenStudy (dtan5457):

so i gotta put it in chemical formula first

OpenStudy (jhannybean):

\[\sf NH_4 ~(g) +O_2 ~(g) \longrightarrow NO~(g) + H_2O ~(l)\]

OpenStudy (dtan5457):

aww i see it now i wrote ammonium into the place of AMMONIA which is why i got it wrong..

OpenStudy (jhannybean):

Mmhmm, and all you have to do is finish balancing it :)

OpenStudy (dtan5457):

ammonia isn't even in my book. is there a pattern to this? like it if ends with "ia" and "ium"

OpenStudy (jhannybean):

No,ammonia and ammonium are just special cases.

OpenStudy (jhannybean):

you'd want to know your diatomics, Hydrogen, nitrogen, oxygen, fluorine, chlorine, bromine, iodine

OpenStudy (dtan5457):

Oh, so if it was just nitrogen, it would be N2, but since it's nitrogen monoxide, you leave out the 2?

OpenStudy (jhannybean):

And um... your polyatomic compounds and monatomic compounds

OpenStudy (jhannybean):

Yeah, Nitrogen MONOoxide, but written as Nitrogen MONoxide

OpenStudy (jhannybean):

Mono means 1, and because it's a covalent compound, meaning its a nonmetal + nonmental, it's written as NO

OpenStudy (jhannybean):

and said Nitrogren MONoxide.

OpenStudy (dtan5457):

polyatomic compounds and monatomic.. is polyatomic just any compound with over 2 per element..?

OpenStudy (jhannybean):

Hmm..polyatomics are all your cations and anions

OpenStudy (dtan5457):

if i remember ionic compounds you name the cation normally then end anions u end with 'ide"

OpenStudy (dtan5457):

covalent would be based on the amount per element?

OpenStudy (dtan5457):

mono, di, tri, tetra etc

OpenStudy (dtan5457):

dam this chemistry takes a while to remember..

OpenStudy (jhannybean):

Yeah. It does, haha And for polyatomics its mostly dependant on the compound itself..... i'd justlook up apolyatomic sheet on google and look at how the compounds are formed and relate it to the endings

OpenStudy (dtan5457):

I'll give you something that's confusing me.. Hydrogen Sulfate vs Nitrogen Monoxide one keeps the h2 but the other leaves as N?

OpenStudy (jhannybean):

I've got to head off, so have a good night :) and good luck!

OpenStudy (dtan5457):

oh alright, np. thank you.

OpenStudy (jhannybean):

Ohhm...

OpenStudy (jhannybean):

Hydrogen Sulfate -Sulfur has a -2 charge, hydrogen has a +1 charge, \(\sf H^+ ~,~ SO_4^{2-}\) written as \(\sf H_2SO_4\) this is an ionic compound, notice how the hydrogen is a cation and sulfate is the anion. Nitrogen Monoxide -covalent compound made up of two nonmetals. These compounds are written exactly how they are said. \(\sf NO\)

OpenStudy (jhannybean):

Sorry, i meant to write sulfate, not sulfur.

OpenStudy (dtan5457):

Oh..so basically you NEED 2 hydrogens to make it neutral in the first place

OpenStudy (jhannybean):

In the process of writing compounds, you have to memorize or understand what the cation and anions are.

OpenStudy (dtan5457):

so you can get rid of the -2

OpenStudy (jhannybean):

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