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OpenStudy (snowxangel):

quadratic applications - vertical motion

OpenStudy (snowxangel):

I need to find the domain and range of R(p)= -2p^2+200p

OpenStudy (danjs):

OpenStudy (danjs):

What class are you taking?

OpenStudy (snowxangel):

Algebra 2 Pre-AP

OpenStudy (danjs):

ok, recall, the general form for a quadratic y(x) = ax^2 + bx + c a= -2 b = 200

OpenStudy (danjs):

What do you know how to do so far?

OpenStudy (snowxangel):

I know how to use the quadratic formula

OpenStudy (snowxangel):

but like since there's no c im not sure what to do.....

OpenStudy (danjs):

Since you are asked to find the domain and the range, if you find the vertex of the parabola, and knowing that a=-2 (negative number), so the thing opens down, then you can give the range. The domain is gonna be all real numbers x = -infinity to x=infinity

OpenStudy (danjs):

Do you remember how to find where the vertex point is?

OpenStudy (snowxangel):

Yeah don't you use a formula like -b/2a or something like that

OpenStudy (danjs):

right, the Axis of symmetry will have an X value as what you said, the vertex lies on the axis of symmetry

OpenStudy (snowxangel):

ok and the vertex is the range right? actually idk

OpenStudy (danjs):

well, it will be a limit of the range. In the general form y(x) = ax^2 + bx + c \[if ~~a<0,~~then ~opens ~down\]\[if~a>0,~then~opens~upwards\]

OpenStudy (snowxangel):

ok so it will open down

OpenStudy (danjs):

Using the formula you gave for finding the vertex, you get vertex (h,k) = (50, 5000) and a is less than zero, so it opens down

OpenStudy (danjs):

In this case when it opens downwards, the vertex point will be the maximum value for the range.

OpenStudy (danjs):

5000 is the largest value for y, and it can be any number less than that. So the range is \[(-\infty ,~5000]\]

OpenStudy (snowxangel):

ok and that means the domain is 50?

OpenStudy (snowxangel):

would it be ok if i wrote the range like [0, 5000]

OpenStudy (snowxangel):

and for some reason i thought at first the range was [0, 200] idk why

OpenStudy (danjs):

no, the range can be any number less than or equal to 5000. \[y \le 5000\]

OpenStudy (snowxangel):

ohhhh ok i see hmm

OpenStudy (danjs):

THe vertex is at (50, 5000) and the parabola opens down. So the range is any number less than or equal to 5000.

OpenStudy (danjs):

The function will never give you values greater than 5000, \[R(p) \le 5000\]

OpenStudy (snowxangel):

this is kind of like what im doing, just so you know

OpenStudy (snowxangel):

except my question is about money and has nothing with velocity, which threw me off

OpenStudy (danjs):

Yeah, they are modeled the same way. Projectile motion is a quadratic function.

OpenStudy (danjs):

The domain of a general quadratic function like r(p) = -2p^2+200p is all real numbers. However, the situation given in the problem may limit the domain.. Like in projectile motion, the time will be larger than zero, so the domain will be not all real numbers, but numbers greater than or equal to zero. It depends on the problem given.

OpenStudy (snowxangel):

So that's kind of why i was thinking the range was [0, 200] because the maximum sell revenue using the function would be 200? but yeah im not sure

OpenStudy (snowxangel):

and then usually you use the quadratic formula to get the domain but there is no "c"

OpenStudy (danjs):

What are the variables? revenue r as a function of price p?

OpenStudy (danjs):

The quadratic formula will give you the zeros, or the X-axis intercepts of the parabola, which may be needed in some problems

OpenStudy (snowxangel):

Ok let me type the question: A manufacturer of tricycles finds that the weekly revenue is a function of the price of the tricycle, p. The equation for the revenue is R(p)= -2p^2+200p

OpenStudy (snowxangel):

so i have to find the domain and range of this and also find the maximum sales revenue which i assume is also the range

OpenStudy (danjs):

Ok, in this problem , the domain and range will be limited because of a couple things. The domain (possible values for Price p), will be larger than zero. You can't have a negative price. The range (resulting values for Revenue R), will also be larger than zero. You dont get a negative revenue.

OpenStudy (danjs):

So here you will indeed need to find the X-intercepts of the fuction using the quadratic formula or factoring.

OpenStudy (snowxangel):

i would like to use the quadratic formula but im not sure how since there is no c

OpenStudy (danjs):

ok, The function is R(p) = -2p^2 + 200p This would be easier to find the zeroes from factoring first. R(p) = -2p * (p - 100) You want to find when R(p) = 0 0 = -2p *( p - 100 )

OpenStudy (danjs):

If you have something like 0 = A * B That will be true if either A=0, or, B = 0

OpenStudy (danjs):

\[0 = -2p*(p-100)\]\[-2p = 0~~~~or~~~~(p-100)=0\] \[p = 0~~~~~or~~~~~p=100\]

OpenStudy (danjs):

So you have the vertex, and the p intercepts. (h,k) = (50 , 5000) p = 0 or p = 100

OpenStudy (danjs):

The graph Is this...

OpenStudy (snowxangel):

Ahhhh ok i think i get it....

OpenStudy (snowxangel):

So since the domain is 100 does that mean the maximum sales revenue is 100?

OpenStudy (danjs):

Using that function for revenue. The possible Prices p are\[0 \le p \le 100\] and the resulting range is \[0 \le R(p) \le 5000\]

OpenStudy (danjs):

The maximum revenue occurs at the Vertex point, and is 5000 dollars, when the price p is 50 dollars.

OpenStudy (danjs):

Not sure if you have ever seen this site, but there are a bunch of vids that can help you out... https://www.khanacademy.org/math/algebra/algebra-functions/domain_and_range/v/domain-and-range-of-a-function-given-a-formula

OpenStudy (snowxangel):

Thank you so much, I will let you know if i get a good grade, wish me luck ha

OpenStudy (danjs):

haha, good luck. If you have more questions, you can add @DanJS to them and Fan me if you want

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