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OpenStudy (anonymous):

Differential equations First order lnear

OpenStudy (anonymous):

n is constant

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

looks like bernouli

OpenStudy (anonymous):

you think so? Hmm

OpenStudy (anonymous):

any idea how to solve this? =)

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

n is a constant means it could be 2 or 3 or some other number... it doesn't change as x or y change..

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

its telling us not to bother about "n"

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Ohh. Thank you so much.

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

can you finish off the rest ?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Wait can i just multiply the whole equation with 1/nx?

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

which equation ?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

so that i'll arrive with dy/dx + 2y/nx = xy^n=1 / nx ?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

the thing i posted. hehe

OpenStudy (anonymous):

it'll look like the gen formula for first order linear

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

\[\dfrac{y'}{y^{n+1}}+ \dfrac{2}{nx}\frac{1}{y^n} = \frac{1}{n} \] this is our equation, right ?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yes yes

OpenStudy (anonymous):

but the orig eq

OpenStudy (anonymous):

what i mean is that can i just multiply the orig equation with 1/nx?

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

yes, what good is that ?

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

\[nxy'+ 2y = xy^{n+1}\] multiplying throguh out by 1/nx you get \[y'+ \dfrac{2}{nx}y = \frac{1}{n}y^{n+1}\]

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

this is NOT a linear equation because the right hand side has \(y\) terms

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

for a linear wquation, the right hand side needs to be function of \(x\) alone, right ?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yes =) thank you

OpenStudy (anonymous):

so ill integrate now the 2/nx right?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

so that ill have the integrating factor

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

it wont work

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

Again, for integrating factor method to work, the right hand side needs to be a function of \(x\) alone

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

\[y'+ \dfrac{2}{nx}y = \frac{1}{n}\color{Red}{y^{n+1}}\] thats the bad part

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yes youre right

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

A linear equation needs to be of below form : \[y' + p(x) y = q(x)\]

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

NO \(y\) terms on right hand side ok

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

so you can't use integrating factor method for your equation yet..

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

try it, it simply wont work

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

thats where bernouli substitution is helpful

OpenStudy (anonymous):

what would be the px?

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

\[y'+ \dfrac{2}{nx}y = \frac{1}{n}\color{Red}{y^{n+1}}\] Again, this is NOT a lienar equation yet

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

integrating factor stuff wont work

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yes hehe sorry

OpenStudy (anonymous):

v= y ^ 1-n, right? in bern eq?

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

but we can make it linear, lets start by dividing \(y^{n+1}\) both sides

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

\[y'+ \dfrac{2}{nx}y = \frac{1}{n}\color{Red}{y^{n+1}} \] dividing through out by \(y^{n+1}\) gives \[\dfrac{y'}{y^{n+1}}+ \dfrac{2}{nx}\dfrac{1}{y^n} = \frac{1}{n}\]

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

Now substitute \(\large v = \frac{1}{y^n}\) differentiating both sides with respect to x gives \(\large v' = -\dfrac{n}{y^{n+1}} y' \implies -\dfrac{v'}{n} = \dfrac{y'}{y^{n+1}}\) the equation becomes \[-\dfrac{v'}{n} + \dfrac{2}{nx}v = \frac{1}{n}\] which is same as \[v'+ \dfrac{-2}{x}v = -1\]

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

Now thats a linear equation and you can use ur favorite integrating factor method :)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

hahaha thank you so much. px would be -2/x right?

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

Yep!

OpenStudy (anonymous):

is it okay to use the formula of bernoulli?

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

what formula ?

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

it should be okay to use any formula if it makes sense to you.. but i prefer this dividing and substitution process more as it lets me see whats going on..

OpenStudy (shadowlegendx):

hi c;

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

do you mean you got \(\color{Red}{v}\)x^-2 = 1/x +c

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yes

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

plug back the value of \(v\) : \[v = \frac{1}{y^n}\]

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

the final solution will be \[\frac{1}{y^n}x^{-2} = \frac{1}{x}+ c\]

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

you may make it look better by multiplying x^2 through out

OpenStudy (anonymous):

omg got it lalala haha thank you so much thank you

OpenStudy (anonymous):

=) @ShadowLegendX

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

the final solution will be \[\frac{1}{y^n} =x+ cx^2\]

OpenStudy (shadowlegendx):

@ganeshie8 is da honey of all them bunnies He knows dat stuff like all his rabbit holes

OpenStudy (alekos):

Awesome

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