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OpenStudy (anonymous):

12/16=y/x what are the values of x and y? diagram below

OpenStudy (anonymous):

OpenStudy (anonymous):

do you want the choices? @mathmate

OpenStudy (mathmate):

1. The part with length 16 is shorter than the part marked 12. We have to assume that the diagram is not to scale. 2. By metric relations of right triangles, \(x^2=16*(16+12)= 448\) which means that \(x=8\sqrt7\) \(y^2=12*(16+12)= 336\) which means that \(y=4\sqrt{21}\) So \(y/x=\dfrac{4\sqrt{21}}{8\sqrt7}=\dfrac{\sqrt{3}}{2}=0.866~approx.\) and does not equal 12/16.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Thank you so much! I totally understand it now @mathmate

OpenStudy (mathmate):

Are the answers one of the choices?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Yes it was one of the choices! @mathmate

OpenStudy (mathmate):

The part y/x=12/16 is superfluous and incorrect. Was it part of the question?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

No it wasn't I was trying to set up a proportion. That is why I couldn't get the answer. @mathmate

OpenStudy (mathmate):

ok, that's better. Have you done metric relations before?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

No I have not. @mathmate

OpenStudy (mathmate):

Do you have a few minutes for me to show a few more relations related to the question?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Yeah I do! That would be great! @mathmate

OpenStudy (mathmate):

I'll start with a diagram.

OpenStudy (mathmate):

|dw:1423171360564:dw| Metric relations work when (and only when) we drop a perpendicular from a right triangle, like in the diagram of your question.

OpenStudy (mathmate):

|dw:1423171439481:dw| Now we name the sides.

OpenStudy (mathmate):

So far so good?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I am going to take notes actually! Yes so far so good

OpenStudy (mathmate):

There are three relations. 1. \(x^2=a(a+b)\) and similarly \(y^2=b(a+b)\) (we have used these to solve your problem.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Yes i noticed that

OpenStudy (mathmate):

2. \(h^2=ab\) This can come in handy.

OpenStudy (mathmate):

3. \(xy=h(a+b)\) Can you figure out why this works?

OpenStudy (mathmate):

...i.e. what does #3 mean geometrically?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

because you are just exchanging the values?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

It means that x times y = the height times the bottom length ?

OpenStudy (mathmate):

#3 works because we are using two different ways to calculate twice the area of the triangle, ab/2=area of triangle, and (a+b)h/2 is just half base * height.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Okay I understand

OpenStudy (mathmate):

These are the three metric relations, and they can come in useful in your math toolkit! Good luck!

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Thank you so much. You are so helpful. If you don't mind I will be asking you for help in the future. I gave you a great review. Thanks again! @mathmate

OpenStudy (mathmate):

Thank you, and you're welcome any time! :)

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