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OpenStudy (anonymous):

You are climbing a mountain by the steepest route at a slope of 10∘ when you come upon a trail branching off at a 45∘ angle from yours. What is the angle of ascent of the branch trail?

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

try 7.11 degrees

OpenStudy (anonymous):

@ganeshie8 7.11 is correct, why?

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

im not good with these, some what tricky to explain what i did.. wait

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

imagine you're at origin when you saw another trial 45 degrees from your trail

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

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ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

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ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

Lets say \(z = f(x,y)\) is the surface of mountain. then the directional derivative along a specific unit vector gives the slope (ascent) along that direction, yes ?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

@ganeshie8 ty for the reply, sorry for delayed response I was having internet issues.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

still am

OpenStudy (anonymous):

ive seen the answer is arctan(cos(45)tan(10)) but dont really get why

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

Ohhk... recall below stuff : \[\text{slope}= \tan(\theta) = \dfrac{dy}{dx}\] gradient vector points in your direction because you're climbing along the steepest trail. since the angle along your trail is fixed at \(10^{\circ}\), would you agree that the x component of gradient vector is \(\tan(10^{\circ})\) ? \[\nabla f = \langle \tan{10^{\circ}}, ~y \rangle \]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yep that makes sense other than i would think its the y component not the x component

OpenStudy (anonymous):

or maybe the z component?

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

it has to be the x component because we have assumed your path is along x direction

OpenStudy (anonymous):

oh i see, from your drawing, ok

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

two variables are enough to represent any motion on a surface

OpenStudy (anonymous):

ah ok

OpenStudy (anonymous):

the z value is just the output of the function of the surface

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

z = f(x,y) is a function which spits out the elevation of mountain (surface) based on the coordinates in xy plane

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

you're right

OpenStudy (anonymous):

k

OpenStudy (anonymous):

i get confused sometimes with this stuff

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

me too haha

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

so far we have gradient vector represented as below \[\nabla f = \langle \tan{10^{\circ}}, ~y \rangle\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

k

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

the y component of gradient must be 0 because the gradient is pointing along x direction at (0, 0) : \[\nabla f(0,0) = \langle \tan{10^{\circ}}, ~0 \rangle\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

k

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

Now that you know the gradient at (0,0), you're ready to find the directional derivative along 45 degrees trail. just find the unit vector and multiply it by the gradient

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

unit vector along 45 degree trail = \(\langle \cos(45), ~\sin(45) \rangle \)

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

so the directional derivative along 45 degree trail would be \[ \dfrac{df}{dx}\Bigg|_{45^{ \circ}\text{ branch trail} } = \langle \tan{10^{\circ}}, ~0 \rangle \cdot \langle \cos(45), ~\sin(45) \rangle = \tan{10^{\circ}} \cos(45)\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

very nice, ty so much, makes sense now :)

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

for angle, just set that derivative equal to \(\tan(\theta)\) and solve \(\theta\) : \[\tan(\theta) = \tan{10^{\circ}} \cos(45)\] \[\theta = \arctan(\tan{10^{\circ}} \cos(45))\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

oops, i spoke too soon, why do we set derivative = tan(theta)?

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

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OpenStudy (anonymous):

ah yes, ok, got it, opposite/adj, dy/dx

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

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