ganeshie8
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ohhhhhhhhhh ok thank you I didnt know that
yeah np :) :) best of luck!!
you're trying to test convergence ?
Yes. Using the comparison test
Would you agree that \(x^3 \gt x+x^2\) for all \(x \ge 2\) ?
Yes
that yields \[ \dfrac{1}{x^3} \lt \dfrac{1}{x+x^2}\] yes ?
does the 1/3 exponent not matter?
we will see..
Ok.
which is same as saying : \[\dfrac{1}{x+x^2}\gt \dfrac{1}{x^3}\]
take cube root both sides now
we get \[\dfrac{1}{(x+x^2)^{1/3}}\gt \dfrac{1}{x}\]
look up harmonic series and appeal to comparison test
Yes. and because 1/x diverges then the original one diverges?
Ok i guess what im confused on is how did you know to use x^3?
thats a good question, yeah thats the only key part here. the reasoning might go something like this : In the bottom we have \( (x+x^2)^{1/3}\) which we know has degree \(2/3 \lt 1\). So by p-series test this has to diverge. however degree for a radical expression makes no sense, so we're not allowed to use p-series test here. Next best thing we can do is to compare it with a polynomial... thinking of anything other than x^3 is just ridankulous as the radical 1/3 is beggins us to use x^3 for comparison...
Ok. What I was taught is to find which part on the denominator is the dominating factor and to essentially pull it out when using the comparison test
so for the next question, 74, we have 1/x(e^x + x)
after you factor out an x of course
and e^x + x is larger than x
Hey, I remember doing this stuff, and just for reference, this might come in handy.
that looks like a good start
wait give me a sec to send a picture of what i did
disregard the squared xe^x stuff
I think you're absolutely right if the lower bound of integral is \(1\) but the lower bound is \(0\) here and what do you know about the convergence of \(\int\limits_0^{\infty} \frac{dx}{x^2}\) ?
im desperately hoping that it was a typo lol, if it was really \(0\), then we need to do something else to show that it diverges...
nah its zero lol
then we're screwed.. we need to start over :/
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dos that mean the answer for the first question is wrong too because its also 0 to infinity
good question, for first problem, the logic is slightly off but it shouldnt matter because we have showed that\(\int_1^{\infty}\dfrac{dx}{(x+x^2)^(1/3)}\) diverges... so that also means \(\int_0^{\infty}\dfrac{dx}{(x+x^2)^(1/3)}\) diverges too so im hoping we are mostly good with first problem...
so does it really make a huge difference in the second problem that its 0 and not 1?
would it help by splitting the integrals apart at all? by making 2 separate integrals from 0 to 1 and 1 to infinity?
It does diverge
\(\int\limits_{\color{REd}{0}}^{\infty} \dfrac{dx}{xe^x+x^2}\) diverges \(\int\limits_{\color{REd}{1}}^{\infty} \dfrac{dx}{xe^x+x^2}\) converges
the lower bound makes that much difference ^
well damn
so we gotta prove that it diverges
and im really not sure how if what i did doesnt apply to the lower bound being zero :/
Notice the integral is improper at both ends : 0 and infinity
thats exactly the reason why we need to work the lower bound separately
so we split it into 2 integrals?
thats a good idea
then we could take the limit as R goes to zero from the right of the integral r to 1 of the function
and then the other one would be limit as r goes to infinity of the integral 1 to r of the function
\[\int\limits_0^{\infty} \dfrac{dx}{xe^x+x^2} = \int\limits_0^{a} \dfrac{dx}{xe^x+x^2} + \int\limits_a^{\infty} \dfrac{dx}{xe^x+x^2} \]
How do you do that? like make it all nice and easy to read without having to type it....
yes that will do
but when its in two separate integrals, both of them have to converge or diverge right? because if one diverged when the other converged, it wouldnt work
but that doesnt work because we know when its 1 to infinity it converges
Yeah I am stuck at the same point. Do we have anything like below : sum of a diverging series and an absolutely converging series is divergent ?
because the integrand is positive in the given bounds
i found a link that says the sum of a convergent and divergent is divergent
which makes sense because it is the same as a constant plus a divergent
Nice :) then we're done
just show that \(\large \int\limits_0^a \dfrac{dx}{xe^x+x^2} \) diverges and \(\int\limits_a^{\infty} \dfrac{dx}{xe^x+x^2}\) converges
how would i show that it diverges exactly?
we can use the same comparison test
exactly but would it converge using the same comparison test?
Im sorry, we just started doing this stuff and im not really sure about it
fix \(a = 1\), we show that \(\large \int\limits_0^a \dfrac{dx}{xe^x+x^2}\) is divergent : when \(x\in (0,1)\) we have \(\large e^x+x \lt 4 \implies x(e^x+x) \lt 4x \implies \dfrac{1}{x(e^x+x)} \gt \dfrac{1}{4x} \)
ok thank you
did u get why that works
yeah i understand why it works i just wouldnt have thought of it myself
it doesnt matter what number you use : when \(x\in (0,1)\) : \(e^x + x \lt 100\) also works but it is easy to see that \(e^x+x \lt 4\) if we recall \(e^1 \lt 3\)
Thank you
poor @username @Nnesha i'm sure he gets tagged in all of these explanation posts... ;P
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