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OpenStudy (anonymous):

help with diff eqns

OpenStudy (anonymous):

\[2\sqrt{x}\frac{ dy }{ dx }=\cos^2(y), y(4) = \pi/4\]

OpenStudy (freckles):

\[2 \sec^2(y) dy =x^\frac{-1}{2} dx\] integrate both sides

OpenStudy (anonymous):

\[2\tan(y)= 2\sqrt{x}+C\] ?

OpenStudy (freckles):

I think that looks good

OpenStudy (freckles):

now you are given x=4 and y=pi/4 find C

OpenStudy (anonymous):

C=-1?

OpenStudy (freckles):

\[2(1)=2(2)+C\\ 2=4+C\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I got that originally

OpenStudy (anonymous):

but I went back and simplified the general solution

OpenStudy (anonymous):

that gives \[y = \tan^{-1} (\sqrt{x}+C)\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

so \[\frac{ \pi }{ 4 }= \tan^{-1} (2+C)\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

\[\tan (\frac{ \pi }{ 4 })= 2+C\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

\[1=2+C\] \[C=-1\]

OpenStudy (freckles):

\[\tan(y)=\sqrt{x}+k \\ y=\arctan(\sqrt{x}+k) \\ \frac{\pi}{4}=\arctan(\sqrt{4}+k) \\ \frac{\pi}{4}=\arctan(2+k) \\ 1=2+k \\k=-1 \\ \tan(y)=\sqrt{x}-1 \] but this will give you the same thing if you used the other C from before: \[2 \tan(x)=2 \sqrt{x}+C \\ 2 \tan(x)=2 \sqrt{x}-2 \\ \text{ divide both sides by 2} \\ \tan(y)=\sqrt{x}-1 \]

OpenStudy (freckles):

I didn't know you called C something different

OpenStudy (anonymous):

something different? C is just a constant

OpenStudy (anonymous):

are we saying the same thing?

OpenStudy (freckles):

I'm saying your constant is correct I just didn't know you called it something different than what we had before

OpenStudy (anonymous):

ohhh!

OpenStudy (anonymous):

so particular solution is \[y=\tan^{-1} (\sqrt{x}-1)\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

?

OpenStudy (freckles):

yeah

OpenStudy (anonymous):

ok, id like to try another, can you correct as I go?

OpenStudy (freckles):

yep

OpenStudy (anonymous):

\[y'=(1-y)cosx, y(\pi)=2\]

OpenStudy (freckles):

and you said you are going to show work and let me check it?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yes

OpenStudy (freckles):

ok

OpenStudy (anonymous):

\[\frac{ y' }{ 1-y }=cosx\] \[\int\limits_{}^{}\frac{ 1 }{ 1-y }dy=\int\limits_{}^{}cosxdx\] \[-\ln(1-y)=sinx+C\]

OpenStudy (freckles):

awesome so far

OpenStudy (freckles):

thought

OpenStudy (freckles):

one correction

OpenStudy (freckles):

-ln|1-y|=sin(x)+C

OpenStudy (freckles):

if you apply the condition as is you will run into some domain problems with the other equation

OpenStudy (anonymous):

solve explicitly for y?

OpenStudy (freckles):

it seems to be doable so yep

OpenStudy (freckles):

I normally apply the condition before solving for y

OpenStudy (freckles):

but either way should work

OpenStudy (anonymous):

ok, general solution is \[y=e ^{-(sinx+C)}+1\]

OpenStudy (freckles):

a lot of people like to write e^C as just K \[y=e^{-\sin(x)-C}+1 \\ y=e^{-\sin(x)}e^{-C}+1 \\ y=K e^{-\sin(x)}+1\]

OpenStudy (freckles):

e^c or e^(-c) whatever it is it is still just a constant

OpenStudy (anonymous):

ohh o, so C=1?

OpenStudy (freckles):

as in you are calling my K ,1 right?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yes

OpenStudy (freckles):

because sometimes like before depending on what C is called you get a different answer like if you left C in the exponent area it would have been 0

OpenStudy (freckles):

and of course e^0 is 1

OpenStudy (freckles):

\[y=Ke^{-\sin(x)}+1 \\ y=1e^{-\sin(x)}+1 \\y=e^{-\sin(x)}+1\] sounds perfect ! :)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

phewww

OpenStudy (freckles):

lol you did it!

OpenStudy (freckles):

I still think the harder one was the first one

OpenStudy (anonymous):

lol, am I annoying you yet?

OpenStudy (freckles):

I didn't see the grouping thing at first

OpenStudy (freckles):

no

OpenStudy (freckles):

but I do have to leave you and it was totally fun (not annoying)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

lol, thank you so much!

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