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OpenStudy (vijay222ms):

Complex Numbers problem

OpenStudy (vijay222ms):

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hartnn (hartnn):

x+1/x = sqrt 3 square it, what do u get?

OpenStudy (vijay222ms):

\[x^2+1/x^2 = 1\] @ hartnn

hartnn (hartnn):

thats correct :) now square it again

OpenStudy (vijay222ms):

\[x^4+1/x^4=-1,x^8+x^8=-3\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

-sqrt(3)

hartnn (hartnn):

x+1/x = sqrt 3 cube it what do u get?

OpenStudy (vijay222ms):

sry \[x^8+1/x^8=-3\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

b.) -sqrt(3)

hartnn (hartnn):

lets see whether x^8+1/x^8 is required but x^4+1/x^4 was required and so is x^3+1/x^3

hartnn (hartnn):

klied, aren't you enthusiastic on how we get the answer? :)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

^_^. i am.

hartnn (hartnn):

very good :) lets see what vijay gets for x^3+1/x^3

OpenStudy (vijay222ms):

x^3+1/x^3 =3sqrt(3)-6

hartnn (hartnn):

how?

hartnn (hartnn):

x^3+x+1/x+1/x^3 = 3 sqrt 3 x^3+sqrt 3 +1/x^3 = 3 sqrt 3 so, x^3+1/x^3 = 2 sqrt 3 how else have you done?

OpenStudy (vijay222ms):

Sry i made a mistake]

hartnn (hartnn):

no prob :) lets move ahead. we have x^4+1/x^4 = -1 and x^3+a/x^3 = 2 sqrt 3 and we want x^7+1/x^7 what do you suggest we should do? :)

hartnn (hartnn):

***1/x^3

OpenStudy (vijay222ms):

i dont have an idea how to proceed further

hartnn (hartnn):

ok, just multiply these 2 equations together! x^4+1/x^4 = -1 x^3+1/x^3 = 2 sqrt 3 what do u get?

hartnn (hartnn):

i think i made a mistake in finding x^3+1/x^3 :P

OpenStudy (vijay222ms):

I got it but x^3+1/x^3 = 1 not 2sqrt3

hartnn (hartnn):

x^3+3x+3/x+1/x^3 = 3 sqrt 3 x^3+3sqrt 3 +1/x^3 = 3 sqrt 3 oh, how did u get 1 ?

hartnn (hartnn):

and you got it for x^7+1/x^7 ?

OpenStudy (vijay222ms):

yea can u help in this question

hartnn (hartnn):

bdw, x^3+1/x^3 = 0 and let me try the next question :)

hartnn (hartnn):

the long way : let z1= x1 + i y1 z2 = x2 +i y2 z3 = x3 +i y3 so, x1 + x2 + x3 = 0 , y1+y2+y3 = 0 x1^2 +y1^2 = x2^2 +y2^2 = x3^2 +y3^2 = 1/3 then try to evaluate each term |z2 -z3| = |x2 -x3 + i (y2 -y3)| = sqrt [ (x2-x3)^2 + (y2-y3)^2 ] i hope theres a shorter way

OpenStudy (vijay222ms):

Ok i will try it out can u guess how to proceed the next question

hartnn (hartnn):

\(\Large \sqrt{1+i\sqrt3 }=x+iy \) then square both sides...

OpenStudy (vijay222ms):

1+i sqrt3 =x^2-y^2+2xyi

hartnn (hartnn):

or converting it to trigonometric form is way easier, 1+ i sqrt 3 = 2 [1/2 + i sqrt 3/2] = 2 [1 <60 ]

hartnn (hartnn):

and then taking its sqrt sqrt 2 [1 <30] note : while taking square root of complex number r < theta we get sqrt r < theta/2

hartnn (hartnn):

bring back 1<30 in x+iy form :)

OpenStudy (vijay222ms):

[1 <30] what is this i cant get

hartnn (hartnn):

1< 30 = cos 30 + i sin 30

hartnn (hartnn):

< = "angle"

OpenStudy (vijay222ms):

ok continue

hartnn (hartnn):

\(\Large 1 \angle 30 = \cos 30 + i\sin 30 = \sqrt 3/2 + i/2\)

hartnn (hartnn):

multiply that by sqrt 2, and you're done :)

OpenStudy (vijay222ms):

thnx can u tell how to proceed in this last problem

hartnn (hartnn):

that tests how well you know your trigonometry arg (x+iy ) = arctan (y/x) arg (1-sina+icos a) = arctan (cos a/(1-sin a))

hartnn (hartnn):

use double angle formulas for cos a and 1-sin a

OpenStudy (vijay222ms):

can u proceed forward

hartnn (hartnn):

cos 2x = cos^2 x - sin^2 x = (cos x + sin x)(cos x -sin x) 1-sin2x = cos^2x -2 sin x cos x + sin^2 x = (cos x - sin x)^2 so, cos 2x /(1-sin 2x) = (cos x + sin x) / (cos x - sin x) here, a =2x, so x = a/2

hartnn (hartnn):

should i still proceed further or you can take it from here?

OpenStudy (vijay222ms):

how to get the answer ?

hartnn (hartnn):

by simplifying further and using tan (x+pi/4 ) formula

OpenStudy (vijay222ms):

can u proceed a little further

hartnn (hartnn):

sure, (cos x + sin x) / (cos x - sin x) = (1+ tan x)/ (1- tan x) also, tan (x+pi/4) = (1+tan x tan pi/4)/(1- tan x tan pi/4) = (1+tan x)/(1-tan x)

OpenStudy (vijay222ms):

I got it Thanks a lot hartnn. I wont forget you

hartnn (hartnn):

welcome vijay ^_^ always happy to help :)

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