[Solved by @Kainui @thomas5267 @mathmath333 @ikram002p ] Find one prime divosor of \[\large 10^{10^{10^{10^{10^{10^{10^{10^{10}}}}}}}} + 23\]
Im going to go ahead and guess 23
Did you find any ?
yes
(i dont want to spoil the fun by saying anything about finding the factor :P)
I think I found one ahhahaha but I have no way of checking.
No wait, yes I do. Yeah I found a factor. I won't say it cause it's funny haha.
yes kainui got it xD
probably is the number itself, I bet it's a prime -.^
i would assume there is a factor x then \(\large 10^{10^{10^{10^{10^{10^{10^{10^{10}}}}}}}} + 23 \equiv 0 \mod x\) \(\large 10^{10^{10^{10^{10^{10^{10^{10^{10}}}}}}}} \equiv -23 \mod x\)
Just trial and error should work.
The number is small.
thomas also got it !
both have msged me the correct divosor and a legitimate method for proving it..
@ikram002p You are thinking in the right direction. Your answer inspired me to come up mine's.
i have several answers lol but idk away to make sure of it xD
and feeling stupid to post lol since already two of you knows :O
I found two factors other than 1 and the number itself lol =P
ive no idea how to even approach the question....that number looks bigger than everything that came into existence combined.......
:O
I can't find any others. One is hard enough for me...
lol i also thought one factor is good enough for me, but kainui seems to be having another factor... i don't understand his solution fully though il need to go through it few more time.. xD
well i thought of this xD \(10^n+23 \) for n which is factor of that power hmm which also sounds does not work :O
@mathmath333 also got it!
I'll give a hint cause it's how I started. Try to write out the number. =P
xD
Should the stacked exponent read from top to bottom of left to right?
@ikram002p got it too
kainui, ikrram and mathmath claim to be having 2 divosors xD
ikram and mathmath have correct methods which i can understand easily for their 2 divisors !
I can't even write the number out. Too many zeros.
i bet that number doesnt exist in this universe with that many zeros ! ikram found 3 divosors!
Wow! I am thoroughly impressed.
last one was a joke :P
Haha well I guess I will reveal how I found my answers unless people are still wanting to try to figure it out.
ok reveal :O
i wanna see @thomas5267 solution though
\[ 10^{10^{10^{10^{10^{10^{10^{10^{10}}}}}}}} + 23\equiv1^{10^{10^{10^{10^{10^{10^{10^{10}}}}}}}}-1\equiv0\pmod3 \]
nice, any others ?
No I can't think of any other. 11 is not one of the prime divisor though.
Ok first one I found by trying to write it out, I got 100...0023 then I saw that if you add up all the digits you get 6, so it's divisible by 3. Second one I just divided this number by 3. How did I do that? Well just like this number has 5 nines \[\Large 10^5-1=99999\] I noticed that we could rewrite the number as \[\large 10^{10^{10^{10^{10^{10^{10^{10^{10}}}}}}}}-1 + 24\] So really there are \[10^{10^{10^{10^{10^{10^{10^{10}}}}}}} \text{ nines}\] added to 24, so divide this by 3: \[(999...999 + 24)/3 = 333...333+8\] so Now there are the same number of 3s as there were nines, but if we add 8 we will get the last two digits change to 41 so really there are \[ \left( 10^{10^{10^{10^{10^{10^{10^{10}}}}}}}-2 \right) \text{ threes}\] followed by 41, so you could write it as: \[\Large 333...33341\] so that's the other number. Hahaha. =P
:O
brilliant xD thats another valid factor so all in all we have found four divisors so far xD but only me knows all four factos haha!
Haha is the other one 13 and the number divided by 13?
thats @mathmath333 's divosor :)
3 and 13 give us another divosr : 39 xD but yeah 39 is not so primy..
i told u that was a joke :P
I wonder if we can try to do some sort of trick to divide the number by 13 too.
can we find factors of \[\large 10^{10^{10^{10^{10^{10^{10^{10^{10}}}}}}}} +1\]
unthinkable
have some respect for large numbers ikram :P
Yeah seriously what's wrong with you @ikram002p ?
lol
I know a factor for this number where p is all primes greater than 23 \[\large 10^{10^{10^{10^{10^{10^{10^{10^{10}}}}}}}} +p+1\]
BEAT THAT!
2 ?
2| (p+1) 2|10^n so..
Yeah, but I also know 2 more numbers that are factors of that number... **cough**
1, 2, and the number itself. =P
i thought so.. leme think :)
lol okay
:P
4
for some p's
Wow.what the heck?
@FrownUpsideDown8767 - Welcome to Mathematics my friend :D
ok ok post some other question :D
im still working on proving 13 is a factor of the number in main question
so the question is not dead yet ikky :P
\(\large \begin{align} \color{black}{\dfrac{10^{10^n}+23}{13}\hspace{.33em}\\~\\ =\dfrac{((10^6) (10^4))^n+10}{13} \hspace{.33em}\\~\\ =\dfrac{((1)\cdot 100\cdot 100))^n-3}{13}\hspace{.33em}\\~\\ =\dfrac{((1)\cdot (81))^n-3}{13}\hspace{.33em}\\~\\ =\dfrac{3^{n~~ mod ~~3}-3}{13}\\ \normalsize {as~~ 3^3 mod ~~13=1} \hspace{.33em}\\~\\ =\dfrac{3^1-3}{13} \hspace{.33em}\\~\\ =0 }\end{align}\)
hahahaha @mathmath333 did it
wolfram http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=10%5E%2810%5E10%5E10%5E10%5E10%5E10%5E10%5E10%29+mod+13%3D
mathmath333 answer is so difficult to understand...
note that i used the cycle of mod 13 againts 3
I can't even understand your second step. Could you explain it?
the cycle of 3^\(\bf3\)=27 =1 mod 13) so it is showing the cycle of 3 that why i applied mod 3 on \(n\)
this works in the cases for \(\huge \begin{align} \color{black}{a^{b^c}\ }\end{align}\)
this stuff we do to find the remainders
mathmath's proof hinges on thae fact that we can write \[\large 10^{10^{\cdots}} = 10^{10k} = (10^{10})^k\] for some integer \(k\)
How does \( \dfrac{10^{10^n}+23}{13}=\dfrac{((10^6) (10^4))^n+10}{13} \)?
thats not true, below is true how ever \[\dfrac{10^{10n}+23}{13}=\dfrac{((10^6) (10^4))^n+10}{13}\]
i dont see any flaw in rest of his work..
yep thats true
and the other factor is 769230769230......769230771 since 13|10023, 10000000023, 1000000000000023.... with quotients 771, 769230771, 769230769230771, ...
i will find if i can given a more elegant proof for this
thats a very interesting pattern @mathmate XD
10023/13=771 That's because 13|999999 and the quotient is 76923 and 10000000023-10023=9999990000+10023
Nice :) period of 1/13 is 6 so 13 | (10^6 - 1)
\(\dfrac{10^(6k+2)+23}{13}=\dfrac{10(6k)-1)*10000+10023}{13}=0~ mod~ 13\)
i have other solution though but seem way as mathmath thought off
Finally get it right: \(\dfrac{10^{6k+2}+23}{13}=\dfrac{(10^{6k}-1)*10000+10023}{13}=0~ mod~ 13\)
10=-3 mod 13 (-3)^12=1 mod 13 (-3)^12n=1 mod 13 (-3)^12n+1=-3 mod 13 (-3)^12n+2=9 mod 13 (-3)^12n+3=-1 mod 13 (-3)^12n+4=3 mod 13 ........ so we need to show 10^stuff is of the form 12n+4
@mathmath333 is a boss!!!
What happened here? \[ \dfrac{((1)\cdot (81))^n-3}{13} =\dfrac{3^{n\text{ mod }3}-3}{13} \]
God I understand now. Definitely one of the hardest proof I have ever read.
i m trying to come up with another proof
I will try to make his proof more understandable.
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