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OpenStudy (anonymous):
IF the series is convergent, find its sum
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
sorry, i keep losing connection
OpenStudy (anonymous):
i cant seem to type the dam problem right! ugh
OpenStudy (anonymous):
\[\sum_{n=1}^{\infty}[(0.7)^{n-1}-(0.4)^n]\]
OpenStudy (xapproachesinfinity):
hmm that looks the same thing we just did
we can rewrite like \[\sum (0.7)^{n-1}-\sum (0.4)^n=\sum (\frac{7}{10})^{n-1}-\sum (\frac{4}{10})^n\]
OpenStudy (anonymous):
i didnt even think about doing that with the decimals!
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OpenStudy (xapproachesinfinity):
did you check the convergency
OpenStudy (xapproachesinfinity):
well you have to do all sort of things to bring to what you want
OpenStudy (anonymous):
no
OpenStudy (anonymous):
they are both less than 1 and more than -1. so it is convergent, right?
OpenStudy (xapproachesinfinity):
what if it does not converge you will end up losing time for nothing
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
im not sure how to process with the n-1
OpenStudy (anonymous):
proceed
OpenStudy (xapproachesinfinity):
seems so the limit is zero so the series converge
OpenStudy (xapproachesinfinity):
i would do \[(\frac{7}{10})^n\times \frac{10}{7}\]
OpenStudy (xapproachesinfinity):
10/7 is just constant you can throw it off the bank
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
when you multiply a fraction by its opposite, it removes the -1 from n-1?
OpenStudy (xapproachesinfinity):
well this is what i did \[(\frac{7}{10})^n (\frac{7}{10})^{-1}\]
OpenStudy (xapproachesinfinity):
and (7/10)^-1 is 10/7 as you know
OpenStudy (anonymous):
ok, yes... so how does this affect how we add?
OpenStudy (xapproachesinfinity):
we didn't have a way of doing n-1
but we have for n
you just do we did before for each sum
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OpenStudy (xapproachesinfinity):
7/10 is constant you can pull it of the first summation
OpenStudy (xapproachesinfinity):
10/7 not 7/10 sorry
OpenStudy (xapproachesinfinity):
r=7/10 and the second one r=4/10
OpenStudy (xapproachesinfinity):
i gotta go sleep working early lol :)
OpenStudy (anonymous):
is it \[\frac{ \frac{ 7 }{ 10 } }{ \frac{ 10 }{ 10 } -\frac{ 7 }{ 10 }} - \frac{ \frac{ 4 }{ 10 } }{ \frac{ 10 }{ 10}-\frac{ 4 }{ 10 }}\]?
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OpenStudy (xapproachesinfinity):
yeah but the first one don't forgot to multiply by 10/7
OpenStudy (xapproachesinfinity):
do you have the answer this time
OpenStudy (anonymous):
so, if i throw the multiplying 10/7 in... is it \[\frac{ 7 }{ 3 }(\frac{ 10 }{ 7 })- \frac{ 4 }{ 6 }\]
OpenStudy (anonymous):
almost lol
OpenStudy (xapproachesinfinity):
yeah that looks good
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OpenStudy (xapproachesinfinity):
what is the given answer
OpenStudy (anonymous):
dont have one this time :(
OpenStudy (anonymous):
it is either your right or wrong
OpenStudy (xapproachesinfinity):
oh ok no problem
OpenStudy (xapproachesinfinity):
you should get 8/3
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
i got 8/3 yes, im gonna plug that in real quick
OpenStudy (anonymous):
yep! JEEZ, you're GOOD! Thanks AGAIN!
OpenStudy (anonymous):
I do have another question real quick tho, if you dont mind
OpenStudy (anonymous):
earlier you said you confirmed the limit was zero and so it must be convergent. How do i do that with the n-1? that looks like infinity-1 to me
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OpenStudy (xapproachesinfinity):
hmm good question
well i did exatly what i explained to you i made it 10/7 times (7/10)^n
and take the limit
OpenStudy (anonymous):
... guess i'm forgetting my rules... is it anything raised to infinity = zero ?
OpenStudy (xapproachesinfinity):
10^n is going to infinity faster that 7^n
so it must tend to zero
OpenStudy (anonymous):
ohh
OpenStudy (xapproachesinfinity):
oh no not anything of course
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
i see how you were looking at that....
OpenStudy (anonymous):
because 1/infinity= zero
OpenStudy (xapproachesinfinity):
yeah it is a comparison of the two exponential functions
OpenStudy (xapproachesinfinity):
yes
OpenStudy (anonymous):
and if the denom is going to infinity faster than numerator, it is a/infinity which= zero
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OpenStudy (xapproachesinfinity):
well any k/oo=0 not just 1
OpenStudy (anonymous):
oh yes, thats why i used an a the 2nd time
OpenStudy (anonymous):
ok, thnks AGAIN. Really appreciate the help
OpenStudy (xapproachesinfinity):
if you were to graph that you should have |dw:1424318312147:dw|
something like that
OpenStudy (xapproachesinfinity):
so it is going to zero we proceed to oo
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
very good
OpenStudy (xapproachesinfinity):
that an exponential function with base <1 and the graph has that shape
OpenStudy (anonymous):
ohh, I see... very good visual
OpenStudy (xapproachesinfinity):
yeah you need to thing about visual too when doing such things :)
OpenStudy (anonymous):
what about something like \[\sqrt[n]{5}\] why is this divergent?
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OpenStudy (xapproachesinfinity):
do you mean \[\sum\sqrt[n]{5}\]
OpenStudy (anonymous):
yes
OpenStudy (anonymous):
n=1 to infty
OpenStudy (xapproachesinfinity):
hmm good question the limit is 1
OpenStudy (anonymous):
these are the things that stump me.
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
i need a "rules list" to study or something
OpenStudy (xapproachesinfinity):
it should be zero as much as i remember
OpenStudy (xapproachesinfinity):
well i don't really have a nice answer for now
but guess it is about the nature of the radicals
OpenStudy (anonymous):
|dw:1424318720210:dw|
OpenStudy (anonymous):
thanks anyway :)
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OpenStudy (xapproachesinfinity):
i will think about it and see :) good question
i guess i will retire for today
OpenStudy (anonymous):
me too! have a good night
OpenStudy (xapproachesinfinity):
if i found anything interesting i will post it for you
OpenStudy (xapproachesinfinity):
good night
OpenStudy (anonymous):
thanks! night