I have two questions!!!
HEllo!
It seems to have just gotten better but until now it was not loading properly!
@pitamar
dude I'm almost done
Ok, have you read the website I sent you about variation?
I was reading it yes
let me go back and finish
ok I"ll read and talk to you about this
Ok =)
Leave the specific question aside for a moment. Tell me, if x varies directly with y, what does it mean?
Well I would think that it meant that they were constricted together
but the website says .... increases, y increases by the same factor. In other words, y and x always have the same ratio:
Ok, think about it this way. Say I made a machine that makes you bigger. I used it and made your whole body twice as big than it is now. How big is your arm now compared to before?
Twice as big as before!
Right, that's because there is a proportion between your arm size and your body size. If I make your body 3 times as big, then the arm will get 3 times as big too. But that doesn't mean they are equal, the arm is always smaller than your body, but there is a proportional relation.
Now, what makes it possible is the fact that your arm will always take a fixed part of your body size. Let's try to think about something easier to compute. Say we're talking about your house instead. Say your room is 1/5 of the house. It doesn't matter if I make the house bigger or smaller, your room will grow or shrink with the 'same factor' as the house and it will always be 1/5 of the entire house.
see what I mean?
ok gotcha
yes it makes sense
so what are you thinking now?
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And it stopped working again! yay! Anyway, direct proportion means there is a constant ratio between two variables. Like your house size and your room size. It is the same as saying: $$ \frac{x}{y} = k $$Which becomes: $$ x = k \cdot y $$ So since we are told here that x and y are in direct proportion then they have to fulfill this form. We don't know the that constant ratio \(k\). but that's why we're also told that \(x=4\) means \(y=-16\) So we plug in: $$ x = k \cdot y \implies 4 = k \cdot (-16) $$And we have to solve for 'k'. Can you do it?
ok dude im good
You mean you finished this question?
yes
ok good =)
I got 1/4 is that right?
i did what u said
let's see. if we have $$ 4 = k \cdot (-16) $$In order to find k we have to divide both sides by -16. so we get: $$ \frac{4}{-16} = k $$what does that simplify to?
oh its actually -1/4
Yes. and plugging back in the original equation: $$ x = k \cdot y \implies x = -\frac{1}{4} \cdot y $$
so that would D unless when you y*-1/4 it turned it postive
the equation is $$ x = - \frac{1}{4} y$$ because it describes the direction proportional relation between x and y. no matter what x or y are.
i think it wouldnt -/+=-
ok gotcha last one
but that actually made a lot of sense
This equation shows us that when y = -16 then indeed x = 4, that is how we got it. if y wasn't negative, say y = 8, then we'd get: $$ x = - \frac{1}{4} \cdot 8\\ x = -2 $$So x could become negative. but the relation is still of the same form.
ok good I"ll keep that
=)
from just doing this I am thinking it would be C right off the bat
I'm gonna think for a sec though
Leave the question aside for a moment again. Now off-the-record, what 'x varies inversely with y' means?
I'm thinking it means that they are alike by the same ratio.
x and y that is
well, you can read it on the website I sent you. If 'x varies directly with y' means: $$ \frac{x}{y} = k $$ Then 'x varies inversely with y' means: $$x \cdot y = k$$
hmm alright
If you compare the two forms then you see that in 'direct variation' we have ratio, so if x got twice as big, then so does y in order to keep the same ratio. But here we have their product being constant. So if x got twice as big, then y has to get twice as small(!) Now big and small are not exactly mathematically accurate words, but to understand what it means we can just play with it. Say we are told: $$ x \cdot y = 5 $$So for x = 1, y has to be 5: $$ 1 \cdot y= 5 \implies y = \frac{5}{1} = 5 $$But if we say x=2... then: $$ 2 \cdot y = 5 \implies \frac{5}{2} = 2.5 $$So you can see that multiplying x by 2 caused y to divide by 2. That is inverse variation.
oh ok gotcha
We can form our equation a little and say: $$ x \cdot y = k \implies x = \frac{k}{y} $$Right?
But if we go back to the question, we have: 'x varies inversely with the cube of y'. so x doesn't vary inversely with y, but with its cube! so what is the cube of y? it would be \(y^3\) And x varies inversely with that! Which means x and \(y^3\) have a constant product. So: $$ x \cdot (y^3) = k \implies x = \frac{k}{y^3} $$
ok i gotcha
Good =)
that makes sense
ok i got something for you too see how good at math you really are its easy ok
its not any of my work at all
I put this little quiz for you together are you ready?
well sounds interesting, but I don't claim to be good at math. Let's just say that it is one of those things where 'good' is a very relative term...
there easy
Well I have to go and eat, is it something you can post and I'll see afterwards?
I can post them ok then you can answer them k
Ok, i'll be back later =)
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Ok remember to number them when you answer so I can check them.. good luck and have fun
Lol, that's no riddle.. it is your HW =\
At least see if you get them correct and they arent HW
its made on the same platform as my work but isnt
ok dude I"ll work on number one you work on number two how does that sound?
Ok.. well let's see, not that I have ever seen this stuff but ok. First question, I'd say B - cross-sectional, because the poll is a one-time thing that comes to describe the state at the moment it is taken. Second, I'd say discrete data, because number of books cannot be fraction. The number of books is also not limited to a number of predefined categories, so I'd go with C - discrete..
Ok, dude I figured out number one: i was thinking b or c myseld so WHOAAA
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