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OpenStudy (anonymous):

How can I find the amplitude of this wave?

OpenStudy (agl202):

What kind of wave?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

OpenStudy (anonymous):

This one.

OpenStudy (agl202):

Answer choices?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I don't understand your meaning.

OpenStudy (lxelle):

What is your choice of answer

OpenStudy (anonymous):

My choice of answer? The problem I am facing is that the amplitude is not the same across the different periods. I need to find a way to calculate the amplitude for the entire wave.

OpenStudy (perl):

Did the teacher give a hint how to find amplitude. What math level is this? There isn't a single fixed amplitude across the wave. You could take the average of the amplitudes, but you will lose information doing this. Alternatively you can model this wave as a sum of sines and cosines using fourier theory : Any periodic function f(t) can be represented by an infinite sum of sine and/or cosine functions that are harmonically related.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

How can you model the wave?

OpenStudy (perl):

checking my book :)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

dude this is some huuuuuuuuuuuge level maths xD

OpenStudy (anonymous):

what is plotted against x-axis?time?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Yes.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I think the average is \[\frac{1}{T}\int\limits_{0}^{T}f(t)dt\]

OpenStudy (perl):

$$ \large f(x) \approx a_o + \sum_{n=1}^Na_n \cos (\frac{n\pi x}{L} )+b_n\sin (\frac{n\pi x}{L}) \\ where\\ a_0 = \frac{1}{2L} \int_{-L}^{L}f(x)dx \\ a_n = \frac{1}{L} \int_{-L}^{L}f(x)\cos (\frac{n\pi x}{L} )dx \\ b_n= \frac{1}{L} \int_{-L}^{L}f(x)\sin (\frac{n\pi x}{L} )dx \\ $$

OpenStudy (anonymous):

dont you think its a question of approximation?? try to draw a line that cut both the blue part and the white part equally and take the average of individual amplitudes...

OpenStudy (perl):

L stands for length of one period

OpenStudy (anonymous):

What is n?

OpenStudy (perl):

n is a shorthand for n=1,2,3,... up to N

OpenStudy (anonymous):

\[a _{0} = \frac{ 1 }{ 0.24 }\int\limits_{-0.24}^{0.24} f(x)dx\]

OpenStudy (perl):

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Should it look something like this?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

For a0

OpenStudy (perl):

right, but use 24, not .24 , assuming you want hours

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Okay.

OpenStudy (perl):

maybe its easier if we approach this as a sum of two waves, like the two waves i posted in that picture

OpenStudy (anonymous):

\[a_{n} = \frac{ 1 }{ 12 } f(x) \cos \frac{ 2\pi x }{ 12 }\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Is that looking good?

OpenStudy (perl):

the problem is we don't know what f(x) is equal to.

OpenStudy (perl):

but i this this problem can be solved by summing two sine functions, one that has a large period (long cycle) and one that has a short period (fast cycle)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

How do we go about doing that?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Maybe the solution is simpler, how old are you ozhobbits?or particularly are you in school or college?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I am in the highest class in year 12.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

There's probably a catch to the question then..

OpenStudy (perl):

lets start with a -cos function

OpenStudy (anonymous):

-cos(2pi/L * x)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Like that?

OpenStudy (perl):

Lets start with this function $$ \large y= -\cos(\frac{2\pi}{12} x )+1.4$$

OpenStudy (perl):

I approximated the midpoint there

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Okay. Should I calculate the midpoint?

OpenStudy (perl):

yes if you can see it better

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Okay. It is 1.25.

OpenStudy (perl):

this function is getting close to it y = -.5 cos ( 2pi /12 * x) + 1.25 ) - ( .5 cos (2pi/24x +1.4)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Should the midpoint be changed for the second one.

OpenStudy (perl):

that is a phase shift, i had to introduce that

OpenStudy (perl):

what was the directions for the assignment?

OpenStudy (perl):

im basically tweaking the function on a handheld graphing calculator

OpenStudy (anonymous):

To discover the formula for the wave using harmonic constituents.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Okay. How did you calculate the phase shift?

OpenStudy (irishboy123):

2.05. just grab the middle (median) peak for each of the bigger and smaller wave patterns, and then calc a simple average of these 2. looks like Brisbane is going to be underwater soon, unless this pattern reverses.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

\[\frac{ 1 }{ 24}\left[ x \right]_{-12}^{12} - \frac{ 1 }{ 12 }\left[ x \cos \frac{ 2pix }{ 12 } \right]_{-12}^{12} - \frac{ 1 }{ 12 }\left[ x \sin\frac{ 2pix }{ 12} \right]_{-12}^{12}\]

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