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OpenStudy (anonymous):

e. Suppose that a random sample of 40 men taking the verbal SAT is selected. What is the 97.5th percentile for the sample mean score of men based on a random sample of 40 men taking the verbal SAT?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

4. According to the US College Board, the scores on the verbal Scholastic Aptitude Test (SAT) for women have a mean of 502 and a standard deviation of 123. The scores for the verbal SAT for men have a mean of 506 and a standard deviation of 112. Assume that the data are normally distributed.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

n = 40 z = 1.96

OpenStudy (queelius):

By the Central Limit Theorem, for large n, the sampling distribution for the mean of the values in the same will be approximately normal. Thus, (mean{x} - mean) / std_dev ~ N(0, 1), so... mean{x} = N(0,1) * std_dev + mean You want z = 1.96, as you stated, so 1.96 * 123 + 502.

OpenStudy (queelius):

Typo: "same" = "sample"

OpenStudy (anonymous):

so 743.08?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

no std for men is 112

OpenStudy (queelius):

Seems about right.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

so 725

OpenStudy (queelius):

Okay, I guess I need to read the question more carefully. Good catch.

OpenStudy (queelius):

Mean for men is also 506.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Suppose that a random sample of 40 men taking the verbal SAT is selected. What is the 97.5th percentile for the sample mean score of men based on a random sample of 40 men taking the verbal SAT? is also 725.52............

OpenStudy (anonymous):

so it makes sense that if we do a smaller sample size

OpenStudy (anonymous):

the answer is the same?

OpenStudy (queelius):

Ooops.

OpenStudy (queelius):

I made a mistake. The standard deviation needs to be divided by the square root of n.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

i mean sorry wrong copy

OpenStudy (anonymous):

b. What is the 97.5th percentile for the scores of men?

OpenStudy (queelius):

Wait, nevermind. I got myself confused. Let me re-read question.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Is the same answer as 725

OpenStudy (queelius):

Ok, so, it's not asking what is the 97.5th percentile score, but the 97.5th percentile for the mean score. So, here's the formula:

OpenStudy (queelius):

mean = 506 + 112/sqrt(40)*1.96

OpenStudy (queelius):

The reason we divide by square root of n has to do with the fact that as n increases, the variance in the mean will decrease. This can be proven if you know how to calculation expectations and variances of, say, the mean function.

OpenStudy (queelius):

And the vairance will decrease by a factor of 1/n, or equivalently, the standard error will decrease by a factor of 1/sqrt(n).

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Okay so I got an answer of 49.85. Is this my final answer or do I need to use the Z table?

OpenStudy (queelius):

97.5th percentile of the mean = 506 + 112/sqrt(40)*1.96

OpenStudy (queelius):

So, clearly, it's nowhere close. We know that it must be at least greater than the mean, 506.

OpenStudy (queelius):

You just have to plug in those numbers given.

OpenStudy (queelius):

But here's the formula: sample_mean + 1.96 * (standard_deviation / sqrt(n))

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I got 84.56

OpenStudy (anonymous):

It is still a lot smaller than the mean 506

OpenStudy (anonymous):

What else am I doing wrong?

OpenStudy (queelius):

How are you getting that number?

OpenStudy (queelius):

506 + (some positive number) should be > 506.

OpenStudy (queelius):

Make sure that you are not, for instance, dividing the entire formula by sqrt(n)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

OH I plugged it into the wrong formula

OpenStudy (anonymous):

is 49.85 mu?

OpenStudy (queelius):

506 + 112/sqrt(40)*1.96 = 540.71

OpenStudy (queelius):

I just plugged it into a calculator. We know, immediately, that anything less than 506 can't be it though.

OpenStudy (queelius):

So, how to interpret this: when given a sample of size 40 from this population, if we take the mean of this sample, 97.5% of the time, it will be less than 540.71.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

thank you so much!

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