I need urgent help!! I want someone to help me find examples proving something right in one question, and helping me solve another. I will medal and fan!
Alright, I will give my answer to number 2, because I need help with number 3(I want someone to check my work as I do it) and I know that Dwayne is correct, I just need examples proving that. :)
My answer for number 2: 2. My function is f(x)=500(1.30)^x. The principal rate is 500 and the growth rate is .30, or 30%. The domain is 1<x<20 in years, because time cannot be negative. The range is 500<y<10000, positive integers because you cannot have half a frog, or a negative number of frogs. The principal amount will just indicate if you start with a larger y-value or a smaller one on the graph and the growth rate will ultimately determine the slope or the rate at which y increases from the starting value/principal amount. The domain and range set the boundaries for how high the numbers can get.
So for 3, would I replace 3 and 5 for x, then solve?And one at a time of course.
@Gebooors can you help?
It looks you are managing well!
So, that is correct, what I have for 3? Now, please help me make some examples for 4, I only was just told he's correct when I asked for help, which isn't much help for the full question.
Did you calculate for x = 3 and x= 5? And you noticed that there are two years when calculating average Growth?
Quick question, if my problem for number 3 is f(3)=500(1.30)^3, what do I multiply first? What order do I work in?
Calculate first 1.3^3. Then Multiply by 500
Thanks! I will tell you what I get
f(3)=1098.5? f(3)=500(1.30)^3 f(3)=500(2.297) f(3)=1098.5
oops 500(2.197)
typed it wrong
Rounded to 1099 is right! Good work!
Yay! Are you sure I round?
You told there are no half frogs :)
oops, you are right! Sorry I missed that step in my problem
How about x= 5? In the same way
Ok, my rounded answer is 1856. f(5)=500(1.30)^5 f(5)=500(3.71293) f(5)=1856.456 rounded to 1856
Am I correct?
Right! Good work!
Yay, thanks!
Now you think average between two years?
So I find the average between those and then years 5 and 7?
Let's calculate it for x= 3 and x= 5.
So for years 5 and 3, the average is 1478, rounded? I added them together and divided by 2
X= 3. Y = 1099 X= 5. Y= 1856 You get 1856 = 1099 * q^2
Um, ok?
Sorta makes sense
I think it is question of average growth per cent. What do you think?
You have to Solve q = square root (1856/1099)
ok
I got q = 1.2995 and average percent is 29,95 also 30 per cent. We rounded numbers. But average growth is difference divided by two
It gives how Many frogs comet in average in a year
So finding the average rate of change, which do I do? what should I get as my final answer?
I have to log out now but for the question 4: I think because lenght is an irrational number and you Multiply height With irrational number, you get arkea, which is an irrational number.
I believe @phi may help you forward. Good work!
Ok, thanks @Gebooors!!
You're welcome @horsegirl27
I would tweak your answer to 2.) The principal rate is 500 should read principal amount is 500 the principal amount is the number of frogs at the start (year 0) for the domain , I would include year 0. so 0 \( \le \) x \( \le\) 20 notice we should say x can be 0 or bigger I don't know how you decided x has to be less than (or equal?) to 20. Maybe argue that after 20 years the frogs are so numerous that they no longer grow at 30% per year, and a new growth function must be used? anyway, for the range, you should include 500 (so use \( \le\), no tjust < \) and to get the upper limit, evaluate 500*1.3^20 (remember order of operations... exponents before multiply)
Ok, thanks for the suggestions!
average rate of change means change in y divided by change in x (this is the slope of the line that connects the two points at (3, 1099) and (5, 1856) this rate is in "frogs per year"
And for x having to be less than 20, I chose 20 as my number for this problem, saying that's what my graph is going up to. But I will include what you said.
Ok, so I made the changes for number 2
now for Q3, find the slope of the line. that represents the average rate of change
Now, what change in y? Should I add, subtract, multiply, or divide? Sorry, I know this but I learned it a while ago and I'm just so confused that I'm not sure
y= 500*1.3^x (if we plot this on an x-y graph) at x=3, find y (y is the # of frogs)
I think you already did that, up above you get the point (3, 1099)
Yeah
So @phi what is my average for years 3 and 5 and 5 and 7? Since I'm not really understanding it when u try to help me do it myself, could you tell me the answers, then explain how you found them? Then, I will still be learning, but not confused
Here is a picture
you should find the number of frogs at x=3 (you get 1099 ) and the number at x=5 now form the (x,y) pairs (the points A and B in the graph) now find the slope between those two points slope is change in y divided by change in x
can you do that ?
Yeah let me do it one sec
Ok either 379(rounded up) or 1478(also rounded) I did each a different way because I wasn't sure... Is one of them correct? idk...
379 is good. that means the frog population grows (on average) about 379 frogs per year between years 3 and 5
now find the (x,y) pair for x= 7 and do the same thing for years 5 and 7
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Ok I got 641. For f(7) I got 3137
you should get a faster rate of change because this second line has a steeper slope your number looks good
ok
the average rate of change is how much the population is growing in "frogs per year" during the specified interval
ok
for Q4 if you add irrational numbers to another irrational or rational number, you get an irrational number. (the only exception I can think of is , for example, sqr(5) + - sqr(5) = 0 ) that means if one side (which means 2 sides) of a rectangle have irrational length we expect the perimeter to also be irrational
although thinking about it, it is possible (as an example) for the length to be 10+sqr(2) and this is irrational and the width to be 5 - sqr(2) and this is irrational but when we add up the 4 sides to figure out the perimeter: 10+sqr(2) + 5 - sqr(2) + 10 + sqr(2) + 5 - sqr(2) we will get 10+5+10+5 = 30 (the sqr(2) parts add up to 0) and 30 is rational
now the area = L*W if L is sqr(12) and W= sqr(3) the L*W = \( \sqrt{12} \cdot \sqrt{3}= \sqrt{12\cdot 3} = \sqrt{36}=6\)
ok
Sorry I was gone for the last minute or so back now
in my first example, the perimeter is rational, and the area will be irrational in the second example, perimeter is irrational and the area is rational for a third example: L= 10+ sqr(2) W= 10- sqr(2) here the perimeter will be 40 and the area = \( (10 +\sqrt{2})(10- \sqrt{2}) = 100-2 = 92 \) (fixed my math!) and both the area and perimeter are rational
although 100-2= 98 not 92
ok
thx
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