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OpenStudy (anonymous):

Differential operator

OpenStudy (phi):

D ( x cosx) = x (-sinx) + cosx = -x sinx + cosx D ( -x sinx + cosx) = D(-x sinx) + D(cosx) = -x cosx - sinx - sinx = -x cosx -2 sinx

OpenStudy (anonymous):

It has 2D^2. First, I took the first and second derivative of xcosx then i multiplied it with 2. Am i right?

OpenStudy (phi):

once you have D and D^2 (see above) , yes you multiply and combine. But I am guessing your D^2 has only 1 sinx (rather than 2sinx)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yes. 1sinx only.. Then why is it -4sinx? hehe

OpenStudy (phi):

because D^2 (x cosx) = -x cosx -2 sinx (I posted how to get this up above)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Omg Hahha im so stupid. I forgot the derivative of cosx. hahah Thank you so much. Thank you.. Can you help me again? regarding this topic again?

OpenStudy (phi):

I can try

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Heres my first second and third derivative of lncosx and 2 tanx

OpenStudy (anonymous):

for lncosx = 1. -tanx. 2. -sec^2x 3. -2sec^xtanx

OpenStudy (anonymous):

for 2tanx 1. 2sec^2x 2. 4sec^2xtanx 3. 4sec^4x + 8sec^2xtan^2x

OpenStudy (phi):

typo on 3. for ln cosx

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Ah yes haha -2sec^2xtanx

OpenStudy (phi):

it all looks good.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

My answer isnt the same with the correct one. Haha I got -8sec^4x+16sec^2xtan^2x. So wrong

OpenStudy (phi):

first, did you account for the minus sign in -2 tanx (I see you found D, etc for 2 tanx)

OpenStudy (phi):

the +1 in (2D^3 -D^2 +1) should give us ln cosx - 2 tanx and so you should at least have the ln cosx term in the final answer.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Yes. Wait. Ill put my whole solution here. hehe

OpenStudy (phi):

your answer has no secants, so maybe they used sec^2 x - 1 = tan^2 x to remove them

OpenStudy (phi):

replace your sec^2 with tan^2 + 1 and simplify, and you will get their version

OpenStudy (phi):

I think I would "define" (using your results posted above) D^3 = -2sec^2xtanx - 4sec^4x - 8sec^2xtan^2x D^2 = -sec^2x - 4sec^2xtanx now combine 3D^3 -D^1 + lncosx -2tanx

OpenStudy (phi):

now combine 2D^3 -D^1 + lncosx -2tanx

OpenStudy (phi):

2 ( -2sec^2xtanx - 4sec^4x - 8sec^2xtan^2x ) -1 ( -sec^2x - 4sec^2xtanx) + lncosx -2tanx

OpenStudy (phi):

you get (leaving out the argument x) -4 sec^2 tan -8sec^4 -16sec^2tan^2 +sec^2 +4sec^2tan + lncosx -2tanx

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yes

OpenStudy (anonymous):

cancelled 4sec^2xtanx and -4blabla

OpenStudy (phi):

-8sec^4 -16sec^2tan^2 +sec^2 + lncosx -2tanx -8(tan^2 +1)^2 -16(tan^2 +1)tan^2 +(tan^2 +1) + lncosx -2tanx

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Ah with tan^2-1

OpenStudy (anonymous):

tan^2+1)^2.. Tan^4 + 2tan^2 + 1

OpenStudy (anonymous):

-8tan^4 -16tan^2 - 8 -16tan^4 -16tan^2 +tan^2 +1 +lncosx-2tanx

OpenStudy (phi):

yes, now combine like terms to get -24 tan^4 -31 tan^2 + lncos -2tan -7

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Yes thank you so much @phi =)

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