Everyone of the statements is true for some (neither) S out of T,U,V, and W.
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
Let,
T = {17}
U = {6}
V = {24}
W = {2, 3, 7, 26}
For every statement, indicate all sets out of T, U, V, and W such that the statement is true.
OpenStudy (anonymous):
a) \[\exists x \in S : (x\ is\ odd) \rightarrow \left( x >8 \right)\]
b) \[\exists x \in S : (x\ is\ odd)\ \Lambda \left( x >8 \right)\]
c) \[\forall x \in S , (x\ is\ odd) \rightarrow \left( x >8 \right)\]
d) \[\forall x \in S : (x\ is\ odd)\ \Lambda \left( x >8 \right)\]
ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):
lets look at statement d)
OpenStudy (anonymous):
ok
ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):
Is there a set with ALL elements being odd and greater than 8 ?
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
no, so the answer is the empty set?
ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):
try again
OpenStudy (anonymous):
there is a set with all elements being odd and greater than 8? haha
ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):
which one ?
OpenStudy (anonymous):
T!
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ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):
Yep!
OpenStudy (anonymous):
so i feel like T is our answer to a, b, and d
ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):
lets look at statement c)
OpenStudy (anonymous):
ok c...for all x in S, if x is odd then x > 8
ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):
yes, which set(s) satsfies that ?
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
T
ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):
actually there are 3 sets that satisfy
OpenStudy (anonymous):
ok, so T, V, W?
but why they are not odd?
is it because of the implication truth table (p -> q) <=> (F -> T) => T?
OpenStudy (anonymous):
uhg im so confused
ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):
W doesn't satisfy statement c) because it has an odd numbers 3,7 which are not greater than 8
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
i think i just figured it out
OpenStudy (anonymous):
ok, let me try the whole thing.
ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):
T = {17}
U = {6}
V = {24}
satisfy statemetn c) because the odd numbers in these sets are greater than 8
ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):
okay :)
OpenStudy (anonymous):
*crosses fingers*
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
a) T U V
b) T, W
c) T U V
d) T
OpenStudy (anonymous):
lol
ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):
b) is wrong
OpenStudy (anonymous):
why?
ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):
there exists no odd number greater than 8 in W
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ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):
try again
OpenStudy (anonymous):
but there is an odd number and a number greater than 8
ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):
the same number has to be greater than 8
OpenStudy (anonymous):
i guess if w is out, then just T!
OpenStudy (anonymous):
i see, ok then
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ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):
it is "x odd" and "x > 8"
and not this :
"x odd" and "y > 8"
OpenStudy (anonymous):
true.
OpenStudy (anonymous):
in this problem it doesnt seem very clear the difference in "for all" and "there exists"
ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):
yeah i see.. so what do you have for final answer ? :)
OpenStudy (anonymous):
so the answer is
a. TUV
b. T
c.TUV
d.T
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