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OpenStudy (anonymous):

Limit Question. Standby, I going to re-post my work.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

\[\lim_{x \rightarrow -9}\frac{ x ^{2}-81}{ |x+9| }\] Starting from x -> -9 (-) I want to know if it is possible to solve the equation without factoring by doing the following. \[\lim_{x \rightarrow -9}\frac{ x ^{2}-81 }{ x+9} \times \frac{ \frac{ 1 }{ x } }{ \frac{ 1 }{ x } }\] To get \[\lim_{x \rightarrow -9}\frac{ x -\frac{ 81 }{ x }}{ 1+\frac{ 9 }{ x } }\] Then just substituting (-9) into the limit. Remember we are working the single sided limit starting from the left.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I mean solve the limit, not equation.

OpenStudy (rational):

substitute -9 and see if it works ?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Well, I have attempted that and it does not work. I just cannot figure-out why or if this strategy is possible.

OpenStudy (rational):

Right, and why do you think it didn't work ?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Well, I know the numerator just goes to zero when I substitute in the -9, which causes the issue.

OpenStudy (rational):

Yes as you can see dividing by x both top and bottom is no good.

OpenStudy (rational):

Go ahead and factor the numerator instead

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Well, I have figured out the problem when factoring the numerator, which gives me the correct limit of 18. I just cannot figure out why my initial approach is "no good". I know my initial strategy is used to solve different types of limits.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Here is the reason I am seeking an answer, what if the numerator could not factor and allowing for the cancellation of the denominator. How would I solve that kind of problems.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

\[\lim_{x \rightarrow -9-}\frac{ x ^{2}-82 }{| x+9| }\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Take this equation as an example

OpenStudy (anonymous):

*limit

OpenStudy (rational):

good question

OpenStudy (anonymous):

This has perplexed me all day.

OpenStudy (rational):

tell me this : Is there anything thats stopping us from plugging in -9 directly into the given limit expression ?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Yes, you cannot plug in the -9 because the denominator would be zero.

OpenStudy (rational):

and why is that bad ?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Well, zero in the denominator is undefined.

OpenStudy (rational):

\[\lim\limits_{x\to 1} \dfrac{1}{1-x^2} = ?\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Let me see if I am getting the limit idea corrently, the first limit was 1

OpenStudy (rational):

look up "indeterminate forms" in your notes

OpenStudy (rational):

1/0 is not an indeterminate form however 0/0 is an indeterminate form

OpenStudy (anonymous):

You know, I have not made it to indeterminate forms in my class, but I finally get why !!! Hard to explain but it kind of just clicked.

OpenStudy (rational):

:) food for thought : \[\lim\limits_{x\to 0}~\dfrac{x}{x^3} = ?\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Haha, doesn't that just blow your mind!

OpenStudy (rational):

also this : \[\lim\limits_{x\to 0}~\dfrac{x}{x} = ?\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I just type some number extremely close to zero on my calculator, crazy results.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

The first one I kind of expected the number to be much smaller, but that is not the cast.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

*case

OpenStudy (rational):

In general we have \(\lim\limits_{x\to a}\dfrac{f(x)}{g(x)} = \dfrac{\lim\limits_{x\to a} f(x)}{\lim\limits_{x\to a} g(x)}\) However when both numerator and denominator limits are 0, we get an "indeterminate" form : \(\dfrac{0}{0}\). This does not mean that the limit \(\lim\limits_{x\to a}\dfrac{f(x)}{g(x)} \) doesn't exist.

OpenStudy (rational):

when you have indeterminate form, you need to mess with the expression and try to get it into a good form. messing with expression include : 1) canceling out common factors 2) rationalizing numerator/denominator 3) L'hopital etc...

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I really appreciate your help. I am about to do some reading on indeterminate forms. I am in the beginning weeks of Calculus I and I have so many questions. I hope maybe I can seek assistance from you in the future.

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