limit question
ok so i dont really get the idea of when...|dw:1426051462865:dw|
but its negative infinity....
i thought dividing by infinity gives you zero so ... idk
As \(\Large\rm x\to-\infty\) we have \(\Large\rm \frac{e^{-x}}{x}\to\frac{\infty}{-\infty}\) yah?
yes
So we have an indeterminate form. We want to know whether the numerator is getting to infinity faster or slower than the bottom.
Are you allowed to use L'Hopital's Rule for this problem? That approach would make the most sense.
ummmm could you first explain to me what this means though "faster or slower than the bottom." and, ididnt learn L'hopitals rule or maybe i did but i dont know the name of it? idk
Think of it like a race. We want to know who is winning, the top or the bottom. If the top is winning, we can think of it like \(\Large\rm \dfrac{\infty}{c}\) where the top is blowing up much faster. So, overall, the limit is blowing up. If the bottom is winning, we can think of this form as something like \(\Large\rm \dfrac{c}{\infty}\). Which, as you mentioned, is clearly o overall.
clearly \(\Large\rm 0\) overall*
So which one is winning? who is blowing up faster? The exponential, or the linear x?
the exponential im thinking..
Good good good. The function \(\Large\rm e^{-x}\) is growing much much faster than \(\Large\rm x\). So the top is winning, it's approaching "infinity" much much faster
You might learn about L'Hopital's Rule later on. When you have something of the form:\[\Large\rm \lim_{x\to-\infty}\frac{f(x)}{g(x)}\]And it's approaching an indeterminate form of \(\Large\rm \dfrac{\infty}{\infty}\) or \(\Large\rm \dfrac{0}{0}\) Then,
\[\Large\rm \lim_{x\to-\infty}\frac{f(x)}{g(x)}=\lim_{x\to-\infty}\frac{f'(x)}{g'(x)}\]
You can take derivative when it's in that specific form, which is actually what we had happening in this problem. Maybe you haven't learned that method yet though :o
ok i got every thing up to the part where you had the f prime over g prime
and derivative...
For this problem, we were approaching the indeterminate form \(\Large\rm \dfrac{\infty}{-\infty}\). Since we have the correct form, we can apply L'Hopital's Rule and take the derivative of the top and bottom seperately.
\[\Large\rm L'Hop\implies\lim_{x\to-\infty}\frac{-e^{-x}}{1}\]The derivatives are ok, yes?
I took the derivative of the top and bottom SEPARATELY, no quotient rule or anything like that :)
so the numerator would be neglected in this case?
neglected? :o
oh god i mean no ummm, becuase the answer was negative infinity so you took the bottom and topseperatley and since the denominator is negative infinty soo
This\[\Large\rm \lim_{x\to-\infty}\frac{e^{-x}}{x}\]didn't tell us anything. So we applied L'Hopital's rule and got this,\[\Large\rm \lim_{x\to-\infty}\frac{-e^{-x}}{1}\]Now if we "Plug in infinity", we can see that we no longer have an indeterminate form.\[\Large\rm \lim_{x\to-\infty}\frac{-e^{-x}}{1}=\frac{-e^{-(\infty)}}{1}\]
Woops sorry I plugged that in wrong hehe
\[\Large\rm \lim_{x\to-\infty}\frac{-e^{-x}}{1}=\frac{-e^{-(-\infty)}}{1}\]
oh i know where im confused ! how did you get |dw:1426052835407:dw| like i know you said top and bottom seperatley but i just dont see it in this equation
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