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OpenStudy (anonymous):

The interest rate r required to increase your investment p to the amount a in t years is found by r=(a/p)1/t-1 . Find the interest rate r for p = 8100, a = 10,000, and t = 2. Round to the nearest hundredth. I tried doing it and ended up getting a really weird answer. The choices are A) .11% B) 111.11% C) 11.11% D) 1.11%

OpenStudy (anonymous):

When I tried to plug everything in, I ended up getting a negative number for some reason?

OpenStudy (solomonzelman):

your formula is, \(\large\color{black}{ \displaystyle r=\left(\frac{a}{p}\right)^{ \frac{1}{t}-1}}\) is that right ?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Yeah

OpenStudy (solomonzelman):

\(\large\color{black}{ \displaystyle r=\left(\frac{10{\tiny~~}000}{8{\tiny~~}100}\right)^{ \frac{1}{2}-1}}\) this is after plugging in the information

OpenStudy (solomonzelman):

simplifying in the exponent \(\large\color{black}{ \displaystyle r=\left(\frac{10{\tiny~~}000}{8{\tiny~~}100}\right)^{ -\frac{1}{2}}}\)

OpenStudy (solomonzelman):

\(\large\color{black}{ \displaystyle r=\left(\frac{100^2}{90^2}\right)^{ -\frac{1}{2}}}\)

OpenStudy (solomonzelman):

\(\large\color{black}{ \displaystyle r=\left(\left[\frac{100}{90}\right]^2\right)^{ -\frac{1}{2}}}\)

OpenStudy (solomonzelman):

\(\large\color{black}{ \displaystyle r=\left(\frac{100}{90}\right)^{ 2\times \left(-\frac{1}{2}\right)}}\)

OpenStudy (solomonzelman):

\(\large\color{black}{ \displaystyle r=\left(\frac{100}{90}\right)^{-1}}\)

OpenStudy (solomonzelman):

can you solve from here ?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I think so... So it'd be A? I think? Technically, I got .9 and I'm not sure how that happened...

OpenStudy (solomonzelman):

Is the formula \(\large\color{black}{ \displaystyle\large\color{black}{ \displaystyle r=\left(\frac{a}{p}\right)^{ \frac{1}{t}-1}}}\) or is it \(\large\color{black}{ \displaystyle\large\color{black}{ \displaystyle r=\left(\frac{a}{p}\right)^{ \frac{1}{t-1}}}}\) ???

OpenStudy (anonymous):

It's the first one

OpenStudy (solomonzelman):

well, then the answer indeed is 0.9, i.e. 90%

OpenStudy (solomonzelman):

with second one we would get something like 1.2345

OpenStudy (solomonzelman):

so I guess you should verify if that is the correct formula.

OpenStudy (solomonzelman):

maybe it is p/a ?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I can't do that until tomorrow /: I guess I'll just leave it until then and then check it. I actually have another question I'm having trouble with... Can you try to help?

OpenStudy (solomonzelman):

if the formula (in question 1) was p/a (instead of a/p) then you would be getting 1.11

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I have to rationalize the denominator, which I vaguely know how to do, but only if there's just one number on the bottom. The equation is: 5 + sqrt 2 over 8 - sqrt 2

OpenStudy (anonymous):

And it's definitely a/p... I know that part is right

OpenStudy (solomonzelman):

\(\large\color{black}{ \displaystyle \displaystyle \frac{5+\sqrt{2}}{8-\sqrt{2}} }\)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Yes... Sorry, I don't know how to do that...

OpenStudy (solomonzelman):

do you know a difference of squares (?). \(\Large\color{black}{ \displaystyle ({\rm \color{blue}{b}}+{\rm \color{red}{a}})({\rm \color{blue}{b}}-{\rm \color{red}{a}})= }\) \(\Large\color{black}{ \displaystyle {\rm \color{blue}{b}}({\rm \color{blue}{b}}-{\rm \color{red}{a}})+{\rm \color{red}{a}}({\rm \color{blue}{b}}-{\rm \color{red}{a}})=}\) \(\Large\color{black}{ \displaystyle {\rm \color{blue}{b}}^2-{\rm \color{red}{a}}{\rm \color{blue}{b}}+{\rm \color{red}{a}}{\rm \color{blue}{b}}-{\rm \color{red}{a}}^2=}\) \(\Large\color{black}{ \displaystyle {\rm \color{blue}{b}}^2~\cancel{-{\rm \color{red}{a}}{\rm \color{blue}{b}}}~\cancel{+{\rm \color{red}{a}}{\rm \color{blue}{b}}}-{\rm \color{red}{a}}^2=}\) \(\Large\color{black}{ \displaystyle {\rm \color{blue}{b}}^2-{\rm \color{red}{a}}^2.}\)

OpenStudy (solomonzelman):

I am just showing why \(\large\color{black}{ \displaystyle (a-b)(a+b)=a^2-b^2}\) but do you know this rule (that I posted in black in this reply) ?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I think so... I think we went over it a few weeks ago. (I've been out of school a lot recently because of a family situation, so everything we've gone over is kind of hit and miss right now... I'm trying to catch up

OpenStudy (solomonzelman):

yes, and do you know that for any number 'a' \(\large\color{black}{ \displaystyle \left(\sqrt{a}~\right)^2=a }\) such as, \(\large\color{black}{ \displaystyle \left(\sqrt{2}~\right)^2=2 }\)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Yeah

OpenStudy (solomonzelman):

now back to our question \(\large\color{black}{ \displaystyle \displaystyle \frac{5+\sqrt{2}}{8-\sqrt{2}} }\) on our bottom, if we had \(\large\color{black}{ \displaystyle \displaystyle (8~)^2-(\sqrt{2}~)^2 }\) would that be good or bad ?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

It'd be good, right? Because you could easily get the (sqrt 2)^2 to be just 2. Right?

OpenStudy (solomonzelman):

yes, ( sqrt(2) )^2 would just be 2, and 8^2 is 64. So when you subtract the bottom becomes a rational number

OpenStudy (solomonzelman):

now, we need to figure out, BY WHAT NUMBER TO MULTIPLY ON TOP AND BOTTOM to make our expression \(\large\color{black}{ \displaystyle \displaystyle \frac{5+\sqrt{2}}{8-\sqrt{2}} }\) [to] have a desired denominator of \(\large\color{black}{ \displaystyle \displaystyle \frac{{\rm \small ~disregard~~for~~now~}}{(8)^2-(\sqrt{2}~)^2} }\) ???

OpenStudy (solomonzelman):

again the question says: \(\large\color{black}{ \displaystyle \displaystyle \frac{5+\sqrt{2}}{8-\sqrt{2}} }\) (just not to scroll back every time) we know that \(\Large\color{black}{ \displaystyle ({\rm \color{blue}{b}}+{\rm \color{red}{a}})({\rm \color{blue}{b}}-{\rm \color{red}{a}})={\rm \color{blue}{b}}^2-{\rm \color{red}{a}}^2 }\) AND \(\Large\color{black}{ \displaystyle( }\) you have the \(\Large\color{black}{ \displaystyle ({\rm \color{blue}{b}}-{\rm \color{red}{a}}) }\) part on the bottom \(\Large\color{black}{ \displaystyle) }\)

OpenStudy (solomonzelman):

your b is 8, and a is sqrt(2)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

So... I'm sorry, I'm kind of confused. The denominator would end up being 62 after subtracting them, right? And then I'm not sure what to do at all...

OpenStudy (solomonzelman):

I mean that you need \(\large\color{black}{ \displaystyle \displaystyle \frac{(5+\sqrt{2})\color{blue}{\times (8+\sqrt{2}) }}{(8-\sqrt{2}) \color{blue}{\times (8+\sqrt{2}) }} }\)

OpenStudy (solomonzelman):

see what I am doing ?

OpenStudy (solomonzelman):

the denominator you have, it is 62

OpenStudy (solomonzelman):

and for the numerator you will need to expand

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Okay. So then to solve the top, would you basically use the FOIL method? I'm not sure if I'm getting this or not... I'm really confused

OpenStudy (solomonzelman):

what did you get for the top

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