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OpenStudy (anonymous):

can someone help me with 17-20 really dont uunderstand

OpenStudy (anonymous):

OpenStudy (anonymous):

@mathmath333

OpenStudy (anonymous):

can you please help me. Really confused and teacher never explain on how to do it

OpenStudy (mathmath333):

i may be wrong, for \(17.\) use \(s(t)=0\), \(t=4.5\)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

i was thinking about doing that but im not sure how to finish

OpenStudy (mathmath333):

what is the value of \(v_0\)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yeah i really dont know teacher never explained it.

OpenStudy (mathmath333):

does this involves calculus.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yes

OpenStudy (jhannybean):

\[v(t) = s'(t)\]

OpenStudy (jhannybean):

\[v(t) = \frac{d}{dx} (s(t)=16t^2+v_0t+s_0)\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yeah im really lost

OpenStudy (jhannybean):

I think you also need to apply your constant acceleration equations to find the final velocity. Particularly \(v_{f_y}^2 = v_{i_y}^2 +2g\Delta y\)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

i never seen that equation before

OpenStudy (jhannybean):

HEY you can find the time first by setting the position function = 0 can you not?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

i really dont know im sorry

OpenStudy (jhannybean):

At t=0 , h = 150 m \[s(t) = 16t^2 +v_0t+150=0\]initial velocity is 0, because it is being dropped, not thrown. \[16t^2+150=0\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

for #26 i got the initial velocity was 150

OpenStudy (jhannybean):

#26?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

#16

OpenStudy (jhannybean):

Oh. How can initial velocity be 150? can you explain?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

what i did was make so=150 and t=0 -16xo^2 =vo(t) +0 t=150 so intial velocity =150 that what i think

OpenStudy (anonymous):

sorry the site crashed on me

hartnn (hartnn):

t is not the initial time, its the time taken for object to change the position so t can't be taken as 0 :)

OpenStudy (jhannybean):

Haha yeah, imagine if the ball were to magically drop from your hands and appear on the ground in t=0 seconds. That would be crazy.

OpenStudy (jhannybean):

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hartnn (hartnn):

\(- 16t^2+150=0\)

OpenStudy (jhannybean):

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OpenStudy (jhannybean):

Why is it -16t\(^2\)? Is this because the position is moving downwards and we have labeled the positive position as up?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

that what my tutor told me . still trying to figure out why she did it like that

OpenStudy (jhannybean):

Alright so solving the equation hartnn stated, what do you get for t? \(\color{blue}{\text{Originally Posted by}}\) @hartnn \(- 16t^2+150=0\) \(\color{blue}{\text{End of Quote}}\)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

i wiuld get 250 +150=0 i thinkl

OpenStudy (anonymous):

no i divide each side by 16

OpenStudy (jhannybean):

subtract -150 from each side first.

OpenStudy (jhannybean):

What do you get?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

16t^2=-150

OpenStudy (jhannybean):

You're missing something.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

i am?

OpenStudy (jhannybean):

\[\color{red}{-}16t^2=-150\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

o that a rookie mistake

OpenStudy (jhannybean):

But it would change your t value :P Anyway, divide both sides by -16. What do you get?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

t^2=150/16

OpenStudy (jhannybean):

And what does 150/16 give you?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

75/8

OpenStudy (anonymous):

which would turn into a raidal i think. if i try to simplify it more

OpenStudy (anonymous):

5 radical 3 / 8 i think

OpenStudy (jhannybean):

Ok that's fine, you've got \(\frac{75}{8}\). Now take the square root of that to find t. Remember, you will have both positive and negative values of time, but time is never negative , so you will have your value of time. What do you get for your time value?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

i would be 8.6 i think

OpenStudy (jhannybean):

\[t=\pm\sqrt{\frac{75}{8}} \ne 8.6\]

OpenStudy (jhannybean):

Use a calculator please.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

3.0

OpenStudy (jhannybean):

Awesome, I got the same, t = 3.06 s. Now as I mentioned earlier, velocity is the derivative of the position function. Therefore what is the derivative of \(s(t) = -16t^2+v_0t+s_0\)?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

32+v+s

OpenStudy (jhannybean):

Remember, \(s_0\) is just a constant. In this function it represents your height, \(h=150~ft\). The derivative of a constant is 0. So what would be your velocity function?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

149

OpenStudy (jhannybean):

No...

OpenStudy (anonymous):

3.06

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