Find substance given mass percentage
We are told that substance A is comprised of Oxygen, sulfur and Nickel 40% is Oxygen, 21% is Sulfur, and 38% is Nickel. Find the chemical formula of the substance.
@dtan5457?
@korosh23
take percentages as masses and use mole formula mole =mass / molecular mass
find mole of all the three given atoms
make sure all moles that u got are full numbers or at least close to full if mole = 1.1 you can round it to 1 if its equal to = 1.9 you can round it to 2 but if its anything in between, you have to multiply all moles to a number that can change decimal in one (or two or three if all have decimals that need to be changed) of your moles to a full number
but not to confuse you do the first step find the mole & show it to us what u got then we'll what we gotta do afterwards
@Somy, i'm really confused. Can you please explain?
Your compound has O, S, Ni 40% is Oxygen 21% is Sulfur 38% is Nickel now take these percentages as masses use the formula mole = mass / molecular mass I'll do one of the for you and you gotta do the rest so mole= 40 / 16 mole = 2.5 This is for Oxygen now do same thing with S and Ni
@Somy, i'm really confused. Can you please explain?
i did explain... now you gotta do the working
@Somy, I don't understand what you mean by this: "take percentages as masses and use mole formula mole =mass / molecular mass find mole of all the three given atoms" I understand what you are trying to say. I just don't know how that solve this equations
So, do I turn 40% to 40g?
i showed you in working of Oxygen The percentage given - you consider it as mass of the atom yes
so, 40/16 = 2.5 21/32 = 0.66 38/59=0.64 Now what?
good now as you need there are no full numbers multiply all the answers by 2 & show me what you got
@Somy, 5, 1.32, 1.28
no good because we cant round off to full number in this case now multiply them all by 3 this time
I multiplied them by six. That works fine \[2.5\times 6=15\]\[0.66\times 6=3.96\]\[0.64\times 6=3.85\]
@Somy
@hartnn @shamim @Somy?
oh very good :) so u can round off 3.96 and 3.85 to 4
Now what. Please help @Somy, @shamim
@Somy?
@Somy, PLEASE, IM begging :(
@Somy ?
;(
im here :D well now you know that O -15, S- 4 and Ni -4 thus your formula will be so your compound will have 15 O atoms, 4 S atoms and 4 Ni atoms
And we can simplify that? Cause the answer is NiSO4
@Somy?
hmm wait i'll calculate myself coz there is some error
Ok. THANK YOU
What did you get @Somy
this is weird i mean there is no way i can get 4 O atoms
I am here you have nothing to worry about it anymore
*crickets*
We are told that substance A is comprised of Oxygen, sulfur and Nickel 40% is Oxygen, 21% is Sulfur, and 38% is Nickel. Find the chemical formula of the substance. where is the other 1%
@dan815, not sure. Let me check again...
40.3, 21.7, 38
That should help, @Somy
@Somy?
@Somy?
im still getting same ratio
Then I am not sure. It definately says thats it
i guess so then
How would we do the same thing with 10.1% Carbon, 40.4% Oxygen and 49.5% Nickel?
Assume we have 10.1g of carbon, divide by 12?
yeah same way
So, wait \[10.1/12=0.84\]\[40.4/16=2.525\]\[49.5/58.7=0.84\]Now what?
@Somy
multiply by a number that will change them all to a whole number
0.84 * 5 = 4.2 0.84 * 5 = 4.2 2.5 * 5 = 10
seems good enough
Then, we divide everything by 2?
what is the answer that you have for it?
NiCO3
once you have found the moles of each (0.84, 0.84, and 2.5) \(instead\) of multiplying by a random number and hoping to get whole numbers when you're done, \(divide\) each one of those by the smallest of the set to maintain the molar ratio. Take 0.84 moles C, 0.84 moles Ni, and 2.5 moles O, and divide them all by 0.84
That way you get a molar ratio of Ni:C:O as 1:1:3.005, which easily rounds to 1:1:3
That makes WAY more sense. THANK YOU @JFraser :D
oh goooooooooood i totally forgot this part! @JFraser thanks a loooot @Ahsome and im soooo sorry
YW
Its fine @Somy, you helped a bunch too! Is it bad to assume 100g tho?
that's exactly what you should do
you could assume any starting mass, but we use "100g" as the starting amount because it's easy to find 10.1% of 100g
Ahh, K. I would just state that as an assumption?
if you have to explain the process, yes
Ahh, K :)
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