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OpenStudy (anonymous):

PLEASE HELP. I SWEAR TO EVERY GOD THAT THIS ISN'T HW. I AM JUST LOST, HELP A BROTHA OUT. A small piece of cheese is placed at the center of a thin horizontal 2 kg rod of length L. The rod rotates horizontally around its center of mass with an angular velocity 10 rad/sec as shown in the figure. A 0.5 kg mouse originally standing at the edge of the rod runs towards the cheese. What is the angular velocity (in rad/s) of the rod when the mouse reaches the cheese?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

try to apply conservation of angular momentum

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I guess I can try, but I am pretty lost with this problem :(

OpenStudy (anonymous):

what is angular momentum of the system in the beginning, before mouse starts to move?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

is it equal to the angular velocity? 10 rads/sec?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I'm sorry that's probably wrong I feel so stupid rn ugh

OpenStudy (anonymous):

NP. you know momentum right? \[P=mv\] angular momentum is similar to that, except true for rotating objects \[L=I\omega\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

conservation of angular momentum, basically \[L_{initial}=L_{final}\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Okay, I think I might be recalling this info

OpenStudy (anonymous):

do you know what is \[I\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I= 20

OpenStudy (anonymous):

how did you get that?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I really have no idea tbh

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Sorry

OpenStudy (anonymous):

It is called moment of inertia, it depends shape of the object and rotation axis. for rod rotating on its center \[I=\frac{1}{12}ML^2\] from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_moments_of_inertia for point object it is \[I=mr^2\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

WOW okey

OpenStudy (anonymous):

so initially you have rod and mouse on the edge which is point at \[r=L/2\] at the end mouse move to the center and r becomes zero.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

\[(\frac{ML^2}{12}+m(L/2)^2)\omega_0^2=\frac{ML^2}{12}\omega^2\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

thank you so much for this.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

you are welcome, good luck

OpenStudy (anonymous):

@bourne13. I actually have the answer to this problem available to me. This is actually an old exam problem from my Physics class at UF. Using your method, I was unable to get the correct answer. I honestly thought that your method was sound, so I'm confused as to why it isn't producing the right answer. I've been struggling with this for a couple hours now!

OpenStudy (anonymous):

center of the rod is fixed, :), right?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

do you have the figure? I wonder if I missed something

OpenStudy (anonymous):

It is, but it does rotate. I actually tried a variation of your method before you posted, but I forgot to square both of the omegas. I had a eureka moment after I saw that you squared them, but like I said, it still didn't work out. I'm not sure if you can access this or not, but it is question 16 on this site: http://www.phys.ufl.edu/courses/phy2048/spring15/exams/2048_Fall14_Exam2.pdf

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I am getting 140/3 rad/s

OpenStudy (anonymous):

The answer is 17.5 rad/s. I keep getting 13.2.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

In case you can't access the website, here's a rough drawing: |dw:1427177224578:dw|

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