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OpenStudy (idku):

Got a very hard one (off my head, but probably exists).

OpenStudy (idku):

\[\sum_{n=1}^{\infty}\frac{n!}{n^n}\]

OpenStudy (rational):

ratio test will do

OpenStudy (anonymous):

ratiooo

OpenStudy (rational):

if you don't like ratio test, here is alternative by comparison test : \[\frac{n!}{n^n}=\frac{1}{n}\frac{2}{n}\cdots\frac{n-1}{n}\frac{n}{n}<\frac2{n^2}\]

OpenStudy (idku):

What is n! (factorial of n) doing in this situation ? n! = n * (n - 1) * (n-2) * ... 1 (for n number of terms) n^n = n * n * n * n (for n number of terms) OR, same way n! = n * (n-1) * ... * 2 (the 1 doesn't matter) and n! =< n^(n-1) (for any n) So we take the limit lim n^(n-1) / n^n = 0 n -> INFTY

OpenStudy (idku):

So series converges

OpenStudy (idku):

\[\sum_{n=1}^{\infty}\frac{n!}{n^n}\] is compared to\[\sum_{n=1}^{\infty}\frac{n^{n-1}}{n^n}\]

OpenStudy (idku):

because\[n! \le n^{n-1}\] for any n

OpenStudy (rational):

that shows the limit of sequence converges this is not sufficient for "series" to converge

OpenStudy (rational):

you will have to use ratio test or comparison test

OpenStudy (anonymous):

\[\sum_{n=1}^{\infty} \frac{ 2 }{ n^2 } \implies converges (p=2>1)\] just use comparison test the way rational showed you

OpenStudy (idku):

I just didn't get why that is\[<\frac{2}{n^2}\]

OpenStudy (rational):

\[\frac{n!}{n^n}=\frac{1}{n}\frac{2}{n}\cdots\color{blue}{\frac{n-1}{n}}\frac{n}{n} \] do you agree that blue term is less than 1 ?

OpenStudy (idku):

yes, I do

OpenStudy (rational):

what about each term between 2/n and n/n

OpenStudy (rational):

all of them are less than 1, agree ?

OpenStudy (rational):

\[\dfrac{a}{n}\] is less than 1 when \(a\lt n\)

OpenStudy (idku):

well, besides of n/n, but all of them are equal to or less than 1

OpenStudy (rational):

each of the terms between 2/n and n/n is "strictly" less than 1. (not including n/n)

OpenStudy (idku):

yes

OpenStudy (rational):

so they product will be also "strictly" less than 1, yes ?

OpenStudy (idku):

yes, A * B < 1, if {A,B}<1

OpenStudy (rational):

\[\begin{align}\frac{n!}{n^n}&=\frac{1}{n}\frac{2}{n}\cdots\color{blue}{\frac{n-1}{n}}\frac{n}{n}\\~\\&\lt \frac{1}{n}\frac{2}{n}\cdot 1\\~\\&=\dfrac{2}{n^2}\end{align}\]

OpenStudy (idku):

I am here....) glitching

OpenStudy (idku):

yes

OpenStudy (idku):

I was about to put up a reply and something happened. here is what I was going to say.

OpenStudy (idku):

yes, for the first 2 and the last term we get 2/n^2 and when you multiply this by more terms (which any of them is less than 1) you get 2/n^2 decreased. so 2/n^2 times (less than 1) you get less than 2/n^2

OpenStudy (idku):

poor wording sorry.

OpenStudy (idku):

and we are using that as out comparison I get it. and this way we can tell it converges....

OpenStudy (idku):

but is there a way to find the value it converges to (without just putting the series in wolfram) ?

OpenStudy (rational):

not so easy this time as it wont telescope

OpenStudy (idku):

yes, but\[2\sum_{2}^{\infty}\frac{1}{n^2}\]\[1/2+1/4=3/4\]\[3/4+1/8=7/8\]\[7/8+1/16=15/16\]

OpenStudy (idku):

I can tell it converges by simply writing some partial sums

OpenStudy (idku):

well, it will always end up summing to n/(n+1)

OpenStudy (rational):

we can test partial sums always. if you're allowed to use p-series test, you can simply say : \(\sum\limits_{n=1}^{\infty}\dfrac{1}{n^2}\) converges by p-series test

OpenStudy (idku):

yes, it is bound.

OpenStudy (idku):

but, is there a way to know what \(\displaystyle\sum_{n=1}^{\infty}\frac{n!}{n^n}\) converges too ?

OpenStudy (idku):

to*

OpenStudy (rational):

i would evaluate first few partial sums then i get bored and move on to next problem

OpenStudy (rational):

in exams you will never be asked to compute the value it converges to.. unless there is an obvious way to find it

OpenStudy (idku):

yes, just wanted to know how... anyway, I guess I am going off-line right now:)

OpenStudy (idku):

tnx for your time and effort!

OpenStudy (rational):

yw here is a nice way to work it using ratio test http://math.stackexchange.com/questions/1196708/convergence-of-sum-n-fracnnn

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