lntegral attack! will fan and medal and build you a crown!
\[\int\limits xe^(x^2+2)^1/3\]
it's xe^(x^2+2)^1/3
I did write x^2+2=u
and it's really messy from there
I get lost everytime
@rvc?
@Andras ?
I will write down what I've come through so far
\[x^2+2=U, du=2x\]
xdx=du/2
\[0.5\int\limits e^u^1/3\]
does it make sense so far?
@rvc?
@IrishBoy123 ?
@IrishBoy123 PELASE
that look sabsolutely horrible. have you tried u = (x^2 + 2) ^ (1/3)? i mean really rip the guts out of it..... i'll have a go that way.
it works!!!!! it needs by parts a coupla times as you get a squate term but it looks good. u^3 = x^2 + 2 3 u^2 du = 2 x dx
I tried so hard! I had a monnlit night because of that!
I gtg to work, I'm begging please help!
following on dx = (3 u^2 / 2x) du that gives putting it all together: x (e^ u) (3) (u^2) / 2x du == ∫ 3 u^2 e^u du yes?!?! typing on hoof here but this shld be good
@IrishBoy123 the answer is \[\frac{ 3 }{ 2 }e^\sqrt[3]{x^2+1}(\sqrt[3]{(x^2+1)^2}-2\sqrt[3]{x^2+1}+2)+C\]
Sorry it took so long, I've just come back from work
@rvc ?
@IrishBoy123 I'm afraid it's not the way...
i havent actually done it, just set it up. hope its right, well done!
??? you found another way??
not yet, it took my hours of sleep away, by hook or by crook, I shall solve it today!
i'll have time later to finish my suggestion....good luck in meantime!
thank you so much! I'll keep you updated, thanks for everything btw!
@SithsAndGiggles HELP!
@perl
$$ \Large \int\limits xe^{{(x^2+2)} ^{1/3}}$$
is that the question?
yes!
u = x^2 + 2 du = 2x dx du/2 = x dx ok so far?
yes!
$$ \Large{ \int\limits xe^{{(x^2+2)} ^{1/3}}~dx\\ \\ \iff \\ \int\limits e^{{(x^2+2)} ^{1/3}}x~dx\\ \\ ~\\ u = (x^2 + 2)\\ du = 2x dx\\ \frac{du}{2} = x dx \\ \iff \\ \Large \int\limits e^{{u} ^{1/3}} \frac{du}{2} } $$
so far so good
this function has no elementary antiderivative
oh no!
the antiderivative cannot be expressed as an elementary function
then what shall we do?!
what are the directions again, dont leave out anything
hmmm one sec
by solved i mean find an antiderivative in terms of elementary functions ( logs, inverse trig, algebraic, trig, exponential)
That's according to symbolab
so it is somehow possible, but idk why...
ok lets do the substitution u^3 = x^2 + 2
u^3?
you mean u^(1/3)?
u^3 = x^2 + 2 3u^2 du = 2x dx do you see why this is useful substitution. now u = (x^2 + 2)^(1/3)
but how did you even come up with this idea?
you want the integral to contain e^(u), since you know the antiderivative of e^u. so by cubing the power of u when you do the u substitution, you anticipate the cube root
ok! that's a start!
by the way, you don't have to do it this way, but it seems like the simplest. i will show you how the program you linked is doing it, which is pretty cool as well
lets call the substitution u^3 = x^2 + 2 , the irish substitution, since he suggested above. or we can do the symbolab approach
i'll latex both ways, ok ?
thanks a lot!
I really appreciate that!
does that make sense so far?
now you can do integration by parts , twice
I didn't get how the substitute v2=(u1/3)2
why to do v^2?
do you understand what I'm asking?
the problem is we have that extra 3u^(2/3) , and we only want an integral in v and dv
so we go back to the substitution v = u^1/3 now if we square both sides, we have an expression of u^2/3 in terms of v
wow
that's just insane
I hope I'll take it from here. Thanks a lot!
$$ \Large{ \int\limits xe^{{(x^2+2)} ^{1/3}}~dx = \int\limits e^{{(x^2+2)} ^{1/3}}x~dx\\ \\ ~\\ u = (x^2 + 2), ~~ du = 2x~ dx, ~~\frac{du}{2} = x dx \\ \therefore \\ \int\limits e^{{(x^2+2)} ^{1/3}}x~dx= \Large \int\limits e^{{u} ^{1/3}} \frac{du}{2}= \frac 12\Large \int\limits e^{{u} ^{1/3}}~ du \\ ~ \\ v = u^{\frac13},~~ dv = \frac {1}{3u^{2/3}} ~du, ~~~3u^{2/3}~dv = du \\\\\frac 12\Large \int\limits e^{{u} ^{1/3}}~ du = \frac 12 \int e^v~ \color{red}{3u^{2/3}}~dv \\ \text{But...} ~~ \color{blue}{u^{2/3} =(u ^{1/3})^2 = (v)^2} \\ \therefore \\ \\ \frac 12\Large \int\limits e^{{u} ^{1/3}}~ du = \frac 12\Large \int\limits e^{v}~ 3v^2 dv = \frac 3 2 \int v^2 e^v dv } $$
i wanted to show you irish's substitution suggestion, less steps
really?
yes its more elegant
I would love that! PLEASE!
$$ \Large{ \int\limits xe^{{(x^2+2)} ^{1/3}}~dx= \int\limits e^{{(x^2+2)} ^{1/3}}x~dx\\ \\ ~\\ u^3 = (x^2 + 2), ~~ 3u^2 du= 2x~dx, ~\frac 32 u^2 du= x~dx \\ \\ \therefore \\ \Large \int\limits e^{{(x^2+2)} ^{1/3}}x~dx = \int e^{(u^{1/3})^3}~\frac 32 u^2 du \\ = \frac 32 \int u^2 e^u du } $$
thats the same integral we got above , but with an extra substitution steps, so we ended up with an integral in v
step*
@perl you're truly sagacious!
thanks, nice link by the way :)
you don't understand, I've been working on it for too long!
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