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OpenStudy (anonymous):

lntegral attack! will fan and medal and build you a crown!

OpenStudy (anonymous):

\[\int\limits xe^(x^2+2)^1/3\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

it's xe^(x^2+2)^1/3

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I did write x^2+2=u

OpenStudy (anonymous):

and it's really messy from there

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I get lost everytime

OpenStudy (anonymous):

@rvc?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

@Andras ?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I will write down what I've come through so far

OpenStudy (anonymous):

\[x^2+2=U, du=2x\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

xdx=du/2

OpenStudy (anonymous):

\[0.5\int\limits e^u^1/3\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

does it make sense so far?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

@rvc?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

@IrishBoy123 ?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

@IrishBoy123 PELASE

OpenStudy (irishboy123):

that look sabsolutely horrible. have you tried u = (x^2 + 2) ^ (1/3)? i mean really rip the guts out of it..... i'll have a go that way.

OpenStudy (irishboy123):

it works!!!!! it needs by parts a coupla times as you get a squate term but it looks good. u^3 = x^2 + 2 3 u^2 du = 2 x dx

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I tried so hard! I had a monnlit night because of that!

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I gtg to work, I'm begging please help!

OpenStudy (irishboy123):

following on dx = (3 u^2 / 2x) du that gives putting it all together: x (e^ u) (3) (u^2) / 2x du == ∫ 3 u^2 e^u du yes?!?! typing on hoof here but this shld be good

OpenStudy (anonymous):

@IrishBoy123 the answer is \[\frac{ 3 }{ 2 }e^\sqrt[3]{x^2+1}(\sqrt[3]{(x^2+1)^2}-2\sqrt[3]{x^2+1}+2)+C\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Sorry it took so long, I've just come back from work

OpenStudy (anonymous):

@rvc ?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

@IrishBoy123 I'm afraid it's not the way...

OpenStudy (irishboy123):

i havent actually done it, just set it up. hope its right, well done!

OpenStudy (irishboy123):

??? you found another way??

OpenStudy (anonymous):

not yet, it took my hours of sleep away, by hook or by crook, I shall solve it today!

OpenStudy (irishboy123):

i'll have time later to finish my suggestion....good luck in meantime!

OpenStudy (anonymous):

thank you so much! I'll keep you updated, thanks for everything btw!

OpenStudy (anonymous):

@SithsAndGiggles HELP!

OpenStudy (anonymous):

@perl

OpenStudy (perl):

$$ \Large \int\limits xe^{{(x^2+2)} ^{1/3}}$$

OpenStudy (perl):

is that the question?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yes!

OpenStudy (perl):

u = x^2 + 2 du = 2x dx du/2 = x dx ok so far?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yes!

OpenStudy (perl):

$$ \Large{ \int\limits xe^{{(x^2+2)} ^{1/3}}~dx\\ \\ \iff \\ \int\limits e^{{(x^2+2)} ^{1/3}}x~dx\\ \\ ~\\ u = (x^2 + 2)\\ du = 2x dx\\ \frac{du}{2} = x dx \\ \iff \\ \Large \int\limits e^{{u} ^{1/3}} \frac{du}{2} } $$

OpenStudy (anonymous):

so far so good

OpenStudy (perl):

this function has no elementary antiderivative

OpenStudy (anonymous):

oh no!

OpenStudy (perl):

the antiderivative cannot be expressed as an elementary function

OpenStudy (anonymous):

then what shall we do?!

OpenStudy (perl):

what are the directions again, dont leave out anything

OpenStudy (anonymous):

hmmm one sec

OpenStudy (perl):

by solved i mean find an antiderivative in terms of elementary functions ( logs, inverse trig, algebraic, trig, exponential)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

That's according to symbolab

OpenStudy (anonymous):

so it is somehow possible, but idk why...

OpenStudy (perl):

ok lets do the substitution u^3 = x^2 + 2

OpenStudy (anonymous):

u^3?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

you mean u^(1/3)?

OpenStudy (perl):

u^3 = x^2 + 2 3u^2 du = 2x dx do you see why this is useful substitution. now u = (x^2 + 2)^(1/3)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

but how did you even come up with this idea?

OpenStudy (perl):

you want the integral to contain e^(u), since you know the antiderivative of e^u. so by cubing the power of u when you do the u substitution, you anticipate the cube root

OpenStudy (anonymous):

ok! that's a start!

OpenStudy (perl):

by the way, you don't have to do it this way, but it seems like the simplest. i will show you how the program you linked is doing it, which is pretty cool as well

OpenStudy (perl):

lets call the substitution u^3 = x^2 + 2 , the irish substitution, since he suggested above. or we can do the symbolab approach

OpenStudy (perl):

i'll latex both ways, ok ?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

thanks a lot!

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I really appreciate that!

OpenStudy (perl):

does that make sense so far?

OpenStudy (perl):

now you can do integration by parts , twice

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I didn't get how the substitute v2=(u1/3)2

OpenStudy (anonymous):

why to do v^2?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

do you understand what I'm asking?

OpenStudy (perl):

the problem is we have that extra 3u^(2/3) , and we only want an integral in v and dv

OpenStudy (perl):

so we go back to the substitution v = u^1/3 now if we square both sides, we have an expression of u^2/3 in terms of v

OpenStudy (anonymous):

wow

OpenStudy (anonymous):

that's just insane

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I hope I'll take it from here. Thanks a lot!

OpenStudy (perl):

$$ \Large{ \int\limits xe^{{(x^2+2)} ^{1/3}}~dx = \int\limits e^{{(x^2+2)} ^{1/3}}x~dx\\ \\ ~\\ u = (x^2 + 2), ~~ du = 2x~ dx, ~~\frac{du}{2} = x dx \\ \therefore \\ \int\limits e^{{(x^2+2)} ^{1/3}}x~dx= \Large \int\limits e^{{u} ^{1/3}} \frac{du}{2}= \frac 12\Large \int\limits e^{{u} ^{1/3}}~ du \\ ~ \\ v = u^{\frac13},~~ dv = \frac {1}{3u^{2/3}} ~du, ~~~3u^{2/3}~dv = du \\\\\frac 12\Large \int\limits e^{{u} ^{1/3}}~ du = \frac 12 \int e^v~ \color{red}{3u^{2/3}}~dv \\ \text{But...} ~~ \color{blue}{u^{2/3} =(u ^{1/3})^2 = (v)^2} \\ \therefore \\ \\ \frac 12\Large \int\limits e^{{u} ^{1/3}}~ du = \frac 12\Large \int\limits e^{v}~ 3v^2 dv = \frac 3 2 \int v^2 e^v dv } $$

OpenStudy (perl):

i wanted to show you irish's substitution suggestion, less steps

OpenStudy (anonymous):

really?

OpenStudy (perl):

yes its more elegant

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I would love that! PLEASE!

OpenStudy (perl):

$$ \Large{ \int\limits xe^{{(x^2+2)} ^{1/3}}~dx= \int\limits e^{{(x^2+2)} ^{1/3}}x~dx\\ \\ ~\\ u^3 = (x^2 + 2), ~~ 3u^2 du= 2x~dx, ~\frac 32 u^2 du= x~dx \\ \\ \therefore \\ \Large \int\limits e^{{(x^2+2)} ^{1/3}}x~dx = \int e^{(u^{1/3})^3}~\frac 32 u^2 du \\ = \frac 32 \int u^2 e^u du } $$

OpenStudy (perl):

thats the same integral we got above , but with an extra substitution steps, so we ended up with an integral in v

OpenStudy (perl):

step*

OpenStudy (anonymous):

@perl you're truly sagacious!

OpenStudy (perl):

thanks, nice link by the way :)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

you don't understand, I've been working on it for too long!

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