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OpenStudy (anonymous):

If 100. g of iron metal are combined with 200. g of an 80% hydrochloric acid, HCl, solution, iron(III) chloride is produced along with a gas. What is the limiting reactant? How many cm3 of the gas will be produced if the percent yield is 70.0%? If the gas is burned in air which is 21% oxygen, what volume of air will be needed for the reaction?

OpenStudy (cuanchi):

It is a multiple step question, break down the problem to make it easy. go step by step 1) First you have to write down the equation and balance it. 2) Then calculate the theoretical yield for the reaction with the 100g of iron and the theoretical yield with the hydroclhoric acid (assume that this acid is 80% mass/vol) . The one that gives a smaller theoretical yield is the limiting reactant. 3) Calculate the theoretical yield of the gas with the limiting reactant and then calculate the 70% of this value. Assume that the reaction is a STP however problem doesnt said that, to convert the moles (mass) into volume of gas. 4) write down a reaction for the combustion of the gas with oxygen. Calculate how much oxygen you need to convert all the gas into products. Consider the air is only 21% (vol/vol) oxygen and again consider STP conditions and calculate the volume of air that will contain that amount of oxygen.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Thank you!!!!

OpenStudy (anonymous):

So I'm having trouble with the theoretical yeild. Can you help

OpenStudy (cuanchi):

let me know if you need more help, the 80% hydrochloric acid concentration is not well defined in the problem. It is not clear if it is mass solute/mL solution, mL solute/mL of solution, gr solute/gr solution, or any other combination. Looking back to the problem i think that 200 g HCl acid 80% to make the problem easy will be mass of HCL/100 g of solution.

OpenStudy (cuanchi):

did you write down the equation and balanced?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Yeah. 3Fe+HCl=Fe3Cl+H

OpenStudy (cuanchi):

the H is a molecular element is never H it is as a gas H2 (g)

OpenStudy (cuanchi):

do you know about the molecular elements and the rule of 7?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

No

OpenStudy (cuanchi):

the equation is not correct, the products are wrong (both of them) check the formula again , the H has to be H2 and the iron (III) chloride formula also is wrong

OpenStudy (anonymous):

That's a direct copy from the homework sheet

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Oh wait you ment my answer

OpenStudy (cuanchi):

3Fe+HCl=Fe3Cl+H (wrong!!!)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Ah

OpenStudy (anonymous):

What would it be then?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Can you explain the question and give me the answer. Being able to see the answer will help to understand the problem

OpenStudy (anonymous):

It's Fe + 2HCl = FeCl2 + H2

OpenStudy (cuanchi):

no

OpenStudy (anonymous):

To what?

OpenStudy (cuanchi):

2Fe + 6HCl = 2FeCl3 + 3H2

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Man I was way off. Thanks. So what next?

OpenStudy (cuanchi):

now find in the periodic table the atomic mass of Fe, H, Cl and calculate the molecular mass of the HCl and H2

OpenStudy (anonymous):

92 combined. Or did you want HCl is 36 and Fe is 56

OpenStudy (anonymous):

And H2 is 2

OpenStudy (cuanchi):

that is OK, calculate the theoretical yield of H2 according to the stoichiometry of the equation mass of Fe -> moles of Fe -> moles of H2 100 g Fe x (1 mol Fe/ 56g Fe) x (3mol H2/ 2 mol Fe) = ? mass HCl -> % mass -> mol HCl -> mol H2 200 g HCl x (80/100) x (1molHCl/36g HCl) x (3mol H2/6 mol HCl) = ? do these two calculation and find out which one gives you the smaller number, that is going to be your limiting reactanct

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Fe= 300 and HCl is 160 so HCl is limiting?

OpenStudy (cuanchi):

300 what?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

grams

OpenStudy (cuanchi):

no, 2.678 mol H2= 5.356g H2

OpenStudy (anonymous):

i just got that, yeah. I did the problem weird

OpenStudy (cuanchi):

and the HCl?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

2.22 g

OpenStudy (anonymous):

HCl is still the limiting

OpenStudy (cuanchi):

these are H2 moles

OpenStudy (cuanchi):

yes the limiting is HCl acid!!!!!

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yay! ok so what next?

OpenStudy (cuanchi):

because the reaction is not 100% efficient but only 70% you have to calculate the 70% of your theoretical yield with the limiting reactant (2.22 mol H2) to find out how much H2 you get in the real yield. In few words calculate the 70% of 2.22 mol H2

OpenStudy (anonymous):

1.554g

OpenStudy (anonymous):

or is that mol

OpenStudy (cuanchi):

moles!!!

OpenStudy (anonymous):

ok so now that we have that, what do we do?

OpenStudy (cuanchi):

now the problem is asking you to convert that moles of H2 to cm3. It doesnt said but I will assume that the gas is in STP conditions (1 atm and 273K). At that conditions the volume of the one mole of any gas will be 22.4L. So you can multiply the 1.554 mol H2 times the conversion factor (1mol / 22.4L) and you will get the volume in L, then convert L to cm3 (1000 cm3/1L)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

would the volume be 34.84L

OpenStudy (anonymous):

i rounded the mole to 1.6,

OpenStudy (cuanchi):

yea something like that now convert to cm3

OpenStudy (cuanchi):

now you have to calculate the volume of air if you burn that H2 with air with a 21% of O2

OpenStudy (anonymous):

so the cm^3 would be 35,840 cm^3

OpenStudy (cuanchi):

yea!

OpenStudy (anonymous):

cool! so now how do we do the next part

OpenStudy (cuanchi):

you have to write down a new equation

OpenStudy (anonymous):

what is that equation?

OpenStudy (cuanchi):

hydrogen + oxygen -> products ?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

h2o2?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

because it oxygen gas right?

OpenStudy (cuanchi):

yes but I will think that after the "combustion" you will get H2O than H2O2

OpenStudy (anonymous):

oh ok so now what do i do with that

OpenStudy (cuanchi):

write the reaction

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I'm confused, isn't h2o the reaction?

OpenStudy (cuanchi):

H2O will be the product of your reaction, but you have to write the chemical equation of H2 + O2 and balance the equation to figure out how much O2 you will need to burn all the H2 that you got in the previous reaction

OpenStudy (cuanchi):

It is this your first chemistry class ever?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yeah

OpenStudy (anonymous):

the teacher isn't very good, so we have to learn a lot on our own

OpenStudy (cuanchi):

Let the teacher know that the problem is a little complicated and is missing some of the detail information such as when you use a % concentration is confusing if doesnt said g/L or g% ,etc, and when she ask about the volume of the gas has to said what are the pressure and temperature. You well know that a gas a different pressure or temperature is going to have different volume? then the answer for that part of the problem could be any volume depending of the conditions of pressure and temperature

OpenStudy (anonymous):

its sounds like it is g/L. We answered the first part, all thats left is the oxygen combustion. What do you think that would be if you had to guess

OpenStudy (anonymous):

i really need to get this

OpenStudy (cuanchi):

I will said by volume, L/L, that means 21L of O2 every 100L of dry air

OpenStudy (cuanchi):

write down the equation 2H2 + O2 -> 2 H2O

OpenStudy (anonymous):

ok

OpenStudy (cuanchi):

the equation is telling you that for each 2 moles of H2 you will need 1 mole of O2

OpenStudy (anonymous):

ok, so we need to find the volume of the 21% oxygen?

OpenStudy (cuanchi):

so if we have 1.554 mol H2 we will need 0.777 moles of O2

OpenStudy (anonymous):

is that the answer then?

OpenStudy (cuanchi):

0.777 moles of O2 at STP conditions will be 0.777 mol x 22.4L = 17.4048 L

OpenStudy (cuanchi):

then because the O2 is only the 21% of the air, this 17.4048 L is only the 21% of the total air that we need

OpenStudy (cuanchi):

17.4048L x 100/21 =82.88L of air

OpenStudy (anonymous):

ok cool, thats the answer right?

OpenStudy (cuanchi):

yes at STP conditions!!! if the temperature or the pressure are different you have to use the equation of the gases to convert P1V1/T1 = P2V2/T2

OpenStudy (anonymous):

ok thank you so much!!! your the best!

OpenStudy (cuanchi):

any other problem?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

no thats it, but if i have anyone question to get help with ill message you!

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