can anyone help with this. I tried it but i don't know if I'm doing it right ..
youre on the right track, i see you made rectangles and triangles to define areas with
the area between f and the x axis is positive when above it, and negative below it, thats the only caveat you might want to consider
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okay yes i know that but how would i find what the little f is. like f(6) and f'(5)... and then how do I know when big F is increasing or decreasing..
you have the graph of the function of little f, so what is the value of little f when x=6?
uhm 3?
F(x) is the area from 0 to x f(x) is the value of the line of f at x f'(x) is the slope of the graph of little f, at x
when x=6, it looks to me like f=0
count over 6 tics to the right, the line appears to be going thru the x axis
oh okay so f(6)= 0?
F(5) = 6, since the first 3 tics are equal, but opposite in area they cancel out, leaving 2 by 3
okay so then is f'(5) = 3
0 to 3 = 0 3 to 5 = 2 x 3 = 6 5 to 7 = 0 so ... the slope of a line is y/x not x/y
f'(5) notice that we have a corner when x=5 the slope on the left of 5 is 0, the slope on the right is not 0 the derivative is only defined when the slope from the right and left are the same.
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the derivative of a function is defined as a limit, and in order for a limit to be defined it has to be the same from all approaches. in this case from the left and the right.
okay uhm I'm sort of confused tho. I found F(0) and f(5) by finding the area. so how do i find f(6) ?
@amistre64
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things to keep in mind F is defined by area f is defined by the position of the graph f' is defined by the slope of the graph f(6) is the value of the graph when x=6
okay so f(6)= 0 & f'(5)= -3?
f' is only definable of the slope is the same on the left and the right; is the slope the same from left and right? or different?
uhm different... wait since there is a corner there wouldn't that make it a zero..?
zero is a definable slope, since 0 is a value that has meaning. undefined, or does not exist are the proper answers to an unworkable slope
corners and sharp points in general will never have a definable slope at that point since they have different slopes on the left and right
so f'(5) is undefined..?
correct
okay thank you. can you just tell me if I'm correct for F(5) & F(7)?
for F(5) i got 21, and for F(7) i got 33
youve done thos incorrectly F(3) is the area from x=0 to 3, half is under the x axis, half is over. equal parts that are opposites. F(3) = 0 F(5) = F(3) + (area from 3 to 5) 2x3 = 6 so the value of F(5) = 0 + 6
now, F(7) = F(5) + (area from 5 to 7) the area from 5 to 7, half over and half under, so equal parts that are opposite cancel out F(7) = F(5) + 0
your error was in making all areas positive in value. over and under you made positive. over the x axis is positive value under the x axis is negative value
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F(5) = -a+a+b = b F(7) = -a+a+b+c-c = b
ohh okay so F(7) =12
oh so then it is 6..
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