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OpenStudy (anonymous):

can anyone help with this. I tried it but i don't know if I'm doing it right ..

OpenStudy (anonymous):

OpenStudy (amistre64):

youre on the right track, i see you made rectangles and triangles to define areas with

OpenStudy (amistre64):

the area between f and the x axis is positive when above it, and negative below it, thats the only caveat you might want to consider

OpenStudy (amistre64):

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OpenStudy (anonymous):

okay yes i know that but how would i find what the little f is. like f(6) and f'(5)... and then how do I know when big F is increasing or decreasing..

OpenStudy (amistre64):

OpenStudy (amistre64):

you have the graph of the function of little f, so what is the value of little f when x=6?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

uhm 3?

OpenStudy (amistre64):

F(x) is the area from 0 to x f(x) is the value of the line of f at x f'(x) is the slope of the graph of little f, at x

OpenStudy (amistre64):

when x=6, it looks to me like f=0

OpenStudy (amistre64):

count over 6 tics to the right, the line appears to be going thru the x axis

OpenStudy (anonymous):

oh okay so f(6)= 0?

OpenStudy (amistre64):

F(5) = 6, since the first 3 tics are equal, but opposite in area they cancel out, leaving 2 by 3

OpenStudy (anonymous):

okay so then is f'(5) = 3

OpenStudy (amistre64):

0 to 3 = 0 3 to 5 = 2 x 3 = 6 5 to 7 = 0 so ... the slope of a line is y/x not x/y

OpenStudy (amistre64):

f'(5) notice that we have a corner when x=5 the slope on the left of 5 is 0, the slope on the right is not 0 the derivative is only defined when the slope from the right and left are the same.

OpenStudy (amistre64):

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OpenStudy (amistre64):

the derivative of a function is defined as a limit, and in order for a limit to be defined it has to be the same from all approaches. in this case from the left and the right.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

okay uhm I'm sort of confused tho. I found F(0) and f(5) by finding the area. so how do i find f(6) ?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

@amistre64

OpenStudy (amistre64):

this lag is killing my performance :/

OpenStudy (amistre64):

things to keep in mind F is defined by area f is defined by the position of the graph f' is defined by the slope of the graph f(6) is the value of the graph when x=6

OpenStudy (anonymous):

okay so f(6)= 0 & f'(5)= -3?

OpenStudy (amistre64):

f' is only definable of the slope is the same on the left and the right; is the slope the same from left and right? or different?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

uhm different... wait since there is a corner there wouldn't that make it a zero..?

OpenStudy (amistre64):

zero is a definable slope, since 0 is a value that has meaning. undefined, or does not exist are the proper answers to an unworkable slope

OpenStudy (amistre64):

corners and sharp points in general will never have a definable slope at that point since they have different slopes on the left and right

OpenStudy (anonymous):

so f'(5) is undefined..?

OpenStudy (amistre64):

correct

OpenStudy (anonymous):

okay thank you. can you just tell me if I'm correct for F(5) & F(7)?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

for F(5) i got 21, and for F(7) i got 33

OpenStudy (amistre64):

youve done thos incorrectly F(3) is the area from x=0 to 3, half is under the x axis, half is over. equal parts that are opposites. F(3) = 0 F(5) = F(3) + (area from 3 to 5) 2x3 = 6 so the value of F(5) = 0 + 6

OpenStudy (amistre64):

now, F(7) = F(5) + (area from 5 to 7) the area from 5 to 7, half over and half under, so equal parts that are opposite cancel out F(7) = F(5) + 0

OpenStudy (amistre64):

your error was in making all areas positive in value. over and under you made positive. over the x axis is positive value under the x axis is negative value

OpenStudy (amistre64):

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OpenStudy (amistre64):

F(5) = -a+a+b = b F(7) = -a+a+b+c-c = b

OpenStudy (anonymous):

ohh okay so F(7) =12

OpenStudy (anonymous):

oh so then it is 6..

OpenStudy (amistre64):

|dw:1427602873283:dw| the area of b = 2*3 = 6, not 12

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