Find the area of the region that is bounded by the given curve and lies in the specified sector
\[r= 3+2 \sin \theta ,..... -\frac{ \pi }{ 2 }\le \theta \le \frac{ \pi }{ 2 }\]
I will type what i have so far... give me a min plz
\[A= \int\limits_{\frac{ -\pi }{ 2 }}^{\frac{ \pi }{ 2 }}\frac{ 1 }{ 2 }(3+2 \sin \theta)^2 d \theta\]=\[A= \frac{ 1 }{ 2 }\int\limits_{\frac{ -\pi }{ 2 }}^{\frac{ \pi }{ 2 }}(9+ 12 \sin \theta + 4 \sin^2 \theta) d \theta\]=\[A= \frac{ 1 }{ 2 }\int\limits_{\frac{ -\pi }{ 2 }}^{\frac{ \pi }{ 2 }}(9 +4 \sin^2 \theta) d \theta\]=\[A= \frac{ 1 }{ 2 }(2)\int\limits_{0}^{\frac{ \pi }{ 2 }}( 9 +4 \sin^2 \theta) d \theta\]
I know a half angle identity goes in at this point, but this is where i get messed up I also know that the answer is \[\frac{ 22\pi }{ 4 }\]
the sin^2 theta needs to becom \[\frac{ 1 }{ 2 }(1-\cos 2 \theta )\] and this messes me up
\[\int\limits_{0}^{\frac{ \pi }{ 2 }}( 9 +4 [\frac{ 1 }{ 2 }(1-\cos 2 \theta)] )d \theta\]
Not sure I would do that: \(\int \left(3+2\sin(\theta)\right)^{2}\;d\theta = \theta\cdot\left(3+2\sin(\theta)\right)^{2} - \int \theta\cdot 2\cdot\left(3+2\sin(\theta)\right)\cdot\cos(\theta)\;d\theta\) After that, your half angle looks a lot more obvious.
I dont know how to do your way, im sorry
he did integration by parts
oh...
which looks really cute too
that explains a lot... i suck at that the most
though I think he is missing a multiple of 2 in the integral part
btw, hi freckles! its been a min
I would prefer to continue the way i started, its easier for me
and hey back at ya
that's fine too
but then again, I am stuck at where i posted... the algebra part
this is what you posted \[\int\limits_{0}^{\frac{ \pi }{ 2 }}( 9 +4 [\frac{ 1 }{ 2 }(1-\cos 2 \theta)] )d \theta\] i think doing a little distribution would make this looks tons prettier
first of all 4/2 =2 so you actually have for that mumbo jumbo part the following 9+2(1-cos(2theta)
I forgot to close that
I thought that too,.. but where does the 4 come from in the answer?
but you can now distribute that two there
oh are you following an example from the book? this isn't your work?
this is my homework online, it gives me the answer...
well, i chose the correct multiple choice at least... the answer is 22pi/4
like as it shows you the work and you are trying to follow it?
it doesnt show me the work, i just chose the right answer :(
lol sorry but you came up with this \[\int\limits_{0}^{\frac{ \pi }{ 2 }}( 9 +4 [\frac{ 1 }{ 2 }(1-\cos 2 \theta)] )d \theta\] and you are asking me where you got the 4 from?
no, the answer is \[\frac{ 22\pi }{ 4 }\] i was wondering about the 4 in the denom
i know im close here, i just get stuck when integrating here...
\[\int\limits_{0}^{\frac{\pi}{2}}(9+\frac{4}{2}(1-\cos(2 \theta)) d \theta \\ \int\limits_0^\frac{\pi}{2}(9+2 (1-\cos(2 \theta)) d \theta \\ \int\limits_0^\frac{\pi}{2}(9+2 -2 \cos(2 \theta)) d \theta \\ \int\limits_0^\frac{\pi}{2}(11-2 \cos(2 \theta)) d \theta \] so you got to this part right ?
oooh... nope, i didnt do that far, i got confused there
let me know if you don't understand something I did there with the distribution part
if you have no questions with that part can I see your antiderivative
I see that now! but i forget how to do the integration, is it \[11 \theta - 2(\frac{ 1 }{ 2 }) \cos 2 \theta \]
almost use the the antiderivative of cos(x) is sin(x)
oh yea...
oh yea...\[A= 11 \theta - \sin 2 \theta \rightarrow \frac{ \pi }{ 2 }\]
right \[[11 \theta-\cancel{2} (\frac{1}{\cancel{2}} ) \sin(2 \theta)]_0^\frac{\pi}{2}\]
and yeah you only need to plug in the upper because the lower makes it all 0
ok so...
\[11(\frac{ \pi }{ 2 })- \sin (\frac{ \pi }{ 2 })= \frac{ 11\pi }{ 2 }-1\]
well the only problem with that is you had a 2 inside that sin thingy
2*pi/2=pi
sin(pi)=0
so you have 11pi/2
multiply top and bottom by 2 and you have your desired unsimplified answer
ok... where does the 22pi/4 come from then?
oh... i guess i dont see where the multiplying by 2 top and bottom came from
well 2/2=1
yes.. OH , where we simplified above?
\[\frac{11\pi}{2} \cdot \frac{2}{2}=\frac{22 \pi}{4}\] this answer they have is simplified 11pi/2 is actually the simplified version of the answer don't ask me why they prefer the other :p
I bet you if this wasnt multiple choice and i plugged in 11pi/22, it would say correct!
this answer they have is un-simplified*
weird
you mean 11pi/2
lol thanks AGAIN
np
I may have another.... well c
ok i might be around a little while longer
Post on another thread. Get better at Integration by Parts. :-)
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