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OpenStudy (anonymous):

(Calculus) Need help with Root Test!

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Here is my problem

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I understand how to take the "nth" root of this and use that to get convergence or divergence, I just don't understand how to turn it into a form of e^x to use L'hopital's rule.

OpenStudy (ness9630):

You sure you need to use L'Hopitals?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I feel like it could be accomplished without it, but I think my professor wants me to know how to do it with L'Hopitals for my upcoming test..

OpenStudy (ness9630):

Well after taking the nth root we end up with \(\Large \frac{7n^{1/n}-1}{4n^{1/n} -1} \) right?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Yessir, I cant' figure out how to turn the n^(1/n) into an e^x form function.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

would it turn into e^(ln(7n)) -1 and e^(ln(4n)-1? I,m thinking that's right.

OpenStudy (ness9630):

I know what your professor is talking about.. but I don't remember how to get there. Maybe @saifoo.khan knows

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Alright, I sent him a message.

OpenStudy (saifoo.khan):

Sorry, I forgot L'Hopital. :/

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Is there any help you could give in terms of expressing the function into terms of e^x?

OpenStudy (ness9630):

Okay, I found some old notes.. good thing I kept them. But from I see, \(\Large (1+\frac{1}{n})^n = e \)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

So, it would turn into ((e^7)-1)/((e^4)-1)?

OpenStudy (ness9630):

when the limit goes to infinity that is.. but we have to convert it somehow.. Amistre knows probably

OpenStudy (ness9630):

The only example I have to go on is this: \[\sum_{0}^{\infty} (1+\frac{1}{n})^{n^2} \] Which issn't much :/

OpenStudy (anonymous):

hmm

OpenStudy (ness9630):

You'd take the nth root, that'll leave with what's inside, plus the n power, which is e when it goes to \(\infty \)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Yeah, i see that.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

When I put this in SymboLab I get a divergent series as the limit goes to infinity as well.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Hey, I'll be back later. I have to go do something..

OpenStudy (ness9630):

Alright, sorry I couldn't help much :/

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Well, unless rational can figure something out?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

No worries, man. You tried :)

OpenStudy (rational):

still working on this ?

OpenStudy (michele_laino):

we can rewrite the general term of your series as follows: \[{a_n} = \exp \left[ {n\ln \left( {\frac{{7\sqrt[n]{n} - 1}}{{4\sqrt[n]{n} - 1}}} \right)} \right]\]

OpenStudy (michele_laino):

so we get: \[\sqrt[n]{{{a_n}}} = \exp \left[ {\ln \left( {\frac{{7\sqrt[n]{n} - 1}}{{4\sqrt[n]{n} - 1}}} \right)} \right]\]

OpenStudy (michele_laino):

then applying the n-th root criterion, we can write: \[{\lim _{n \to \infty }}\sqrt[n]{{{a_n}}} = \exp \left[ {{{\lim }_{n \to \infty }}\ln \left( {\frac{{7\sqrt[n]{n} - 1}}{{4\sqrt[n]{n} - 1}}} \right)} \right]\]

OpenStudy (michele_laino):

now, keeping in mind that: \[{\lim _{n \to \infty }}\sqrt[n]{n} = 1\]

OpenStudy (michele_laino):

we have: \[{\lim _{n \to \infty }}\sqrt[n]{{{a_n}}} = \exp \left[ {{{\lim }_{n \to \infty }}\ln \left( {\frac{{7\sqrt[n]{n} - 1}}{{4\sqrt[n]{n} - 1}}} \right)} \right] = \exp \left( 2 \right) > 1\]

OpenStudy (michele_laino):

In other words, your series is a divergent series

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Thanks a bunch!

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