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OpenStudy (shelby1290):

a) Verify that PR bisects QS at right angles b)Verify that QS does not bisect PR ***graph included

OpenStudy (shelby1290):

OpenStudy (anonymous):

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OpenStudy (anonymous):

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OpenStudy (shelby1290):

@Icedragon50 whaaaat really? Where?

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here?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

ya early today lol

OpenStudy (anonymous):

use google

OpenStudy (shelby1290):

do you have the link to it?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

i called u

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OpenStudy (shelby1290):

@Icedragon50 WOW 3 YEARS AGOO! yea i saw it but i dont get it....what do i need to find first

OpenStudy (anonymous):

lol

OpenStudy (anonymous):

so funny

OpenStudy (shelby1290):

No i don't. lol idek what connections means...

OpenStudy (shelby1290):

ohh no i go to real life public school

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uhhh whats a brick and motor school now?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

well then ask ur teacher lol

OpenStudy (anonymous):

its a real public school

OpenStudy (shelby1290):

she can't teach very well so i need help

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OpenStudy (anonymous):

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OpenStudy (anonymous):

@xapproachesinfinity BROTATO IM NOT GOOD IN GEOMETRY

OpenStudy (anonymous):

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OpenStudy (xapproachesinfinity):

find the coordinates of T and very that the coordinates are the same using the midpoint

OpenStudy (xapproachesinfinity):

to find a midpoint yo do \[(\frac{x_1+x_2}{2},\frac{y_1+y_2}{2})\]

OpenStudy (shelby1290):

okay so which points do I plug into the midpoint formula to get T

OpenStudy (xapproachesinfinity):

the end point of the segment QS

OpenStudy (xapproachesinfinity):

points*

OpenStudy (xapproachesinfinity):

b) is basically the same thing. think about it a little bit

OpenStudy (shelby1290):

okay m=(x1+x2/2), (y1+y2/2) =(2+8/2), (8+4/2) =(10/2), (12/2) =(5,6)

OpenStudy (shelby1290):

@xapproachesinfinity ^

OpenStudy (shelby1290):

PR m=(x1+x2/2), (y1+y2/2) =(7+1/2), (9+0/2) =(8/2), (9/2) =(4,4.5)

OpenStudy (shelby1290):

Can someone please tell me if im doing this right?????

OpenStudy (shelby1290):

@e.mccormick can you please help me with this?

OpenStudy (e.mccormick):

Yes, that finds the midpoint of PR, which is obviously not where they intersect, and therefore QS does not bisect PR. That is the answer for b.

OpenStudy (e.mccormick):

And a little more up... yes again.

OpenStudy (e.mccormick):

Just the reverse...

OpenStudy (shelby1290):

Okay so both of my solutions were correct then, right?

OpenStudy (e.mccormick):

Well, you found the midpoints. Then you do the comparison and that is the versification (proof) that a is a match and b is not.

OpenStudy (shelby1290):

So you're saying that there's more to it than visually knowing that (5,6) and (4,4.5) aren't the same...

OpenStudy (e.mccormick):

The right angles part... hmmm, you will need to find the slops of them both.

OpenStudy (shelby1290):

Okay

OpenStudy (e.mccormick):

Yes and no. You can look at them and say, "They intersect at ..." which may or may not be allowed. However, if you find the equations of the lines you can find where they intersect, which is proof. It depends on how much rigor is needed for a. And, because they want it at right angles, you need the slopes as a minimum.

OpenStudy (shelby1290):

Oh okay so I need to find the slope of ...QS and PR and make equations for them?

OpenStudy (shelby1290):

or.. something else

OpenStudy (e.mccormick):

Remember your perpendicular line rule for slope?

OpenStudy (shelby1290):

negative reciprocal right?

OpenStudy (e.mccormick):

EXACTLY! So you need the slopes to show they are that, which proves they are at right angles.

OpenStudy (shelby1290):

slope of QS m=y2-y1/x2-x1 =4-8/8-2 =-4/6 =-2/3 negative recip..... 2/3

OpenStudy (e.mccormick):

It is becaue "a) Verify that PR bisects QS at right angles " has two parts. That it bisects you did by a visual comparison to the found midpoint... now, that can be done more mathematically as well, and it will depend on the teacher if they allow visual or not. The second part, at right angles, is the whole slope thing.

OpenStudy (e.mccormick):

So all you need is the slope of PR. If it is also 2/3, then that is the right angle proof.

OpenStudy (shelby1290):

slope of PR m=y2-y1/x2-x1 =0-9/1-7 =-9/-6 =-3/-2

OpenStudy (shelby1290):

i can't tell what the negative reciprocal would be

OpenStudy (e.mccormick):

Oops, yah, you made a small mistake in the first thing whjen you said" =-2/3 negative recip..... 2/3" : \(\dfrac{a}{b}\) has the negative recyprocal of \(-\dfrac{b}{a}\) Get it now?

OpenStudy (e.mccormick):

You swapped the sign, the negative part, but...

OpenStudy (shelby1290):

so instead of it being 2/3 its -3/2

OpenStudy (e.mccormick):

Oops... you swapped the sign a second time. Just 3/2

OpenStudy (shelby1290):

okay

OpenStudy (shelby1290):

i see...

OpenStudy (e.mccormick):

=-2/3 has a negative recip. of 3/2 slope of PR is -3/-2, well, those negatives cancel, so... 3/2

OpenStudy (e.mccormick):

That allows you to use the rule for perpendicular lines and that proves the 90 degree part.

OpenStudy (shelby1290):

question: how do you find the negative reciprocal is it times -1 or divided by negative 1 of neither?

OpenStudy (shelby1290):

*or neither

OpenStudy (shelby1290):

because it seems like there are different rules to everything and then i get confused

OpenStudy (e.mccormick):

Hmmm... technically, mutiply by x to get -1 then sove for x. It is more like a definition than anything else after a certain point.

OpenStudy (e.mccormick):

\(-\dfrac{2}{3}x=-1\) \(-1\times-\dfrac{2}{3}x=-1\times-1\) \(\dfrac{2}{3}x=1\) \(3\times\dfrac{2}{3}x=3\times1\) \(2x=3\) \(\dfrac{1}{2}\times2x=\dfrac{1}{2}\times3\) \(x=\dfrac{3}{2}\) That would be the mathematical way of finding a negative recyprocal.

OpenStudy (e.mccormick):

Since recyprocals and negatives are both pre-algebrea topics, most algebra classes let you just "know" what they mean.

OpenStudy (shelby1290):

What do you mean by multiplying x to get -1

OpenStudy (e.mccormick):

What I just did in the example. Where I just used x as my goal. See, one definition of a recyprocal is the thing you multipy by to get 1. Well, to get the negative recyprocal it is what you need to multiply by to get -1.

OpenStudy (shelby1290):

Btw I can't see the solution that you've done for some strange reason. I just see codes :/

OpenStudy (e.mccormick):

You have a script blocker? If so, tell it that mathjax.com is OK.

OpenStudy (shelby1290):

I switched browsers so I can see it now

OpenStudy (shelby1290):

And I understand it. Thank you!

OpenStudy (e.mccormick):

Good good. =) So, did you want to know the mathematical way to find the intersection point, are are you going to be OK doing it visually?

OpenStudy (shelby1290):

Sure!

OpenStudy (e.mccormick):

Well, you kabe the slope and you have points. So you can use the point-slope form to find the equations of the lines. Then solve for the intersection.

OpenStudy (e.mccormick):

have the slope.. bah.

OpenStudy (shelby1290):

y=mx+b form ?

OpenStudy (e.mccormick):

Yep. You need to find the b, then you have everything for the linear equation.

OpenStudy (shelby1290):

y=3/2x+b

OpenStudy (shelby1290):

do i plug in any point?

OpenStudy (e.mccormick):

Well, that is the slope for PR, so one of the PR points.

OpenStudy (e.mccormick):

(1,0) is probably easy.

OpenStudy (shelby1290):

0=3/2(1)+b 1 1/2=b

OpenStudy (shelby1290):

y=3/2x+ 1 1/2

OpenStudy (e.mccormick):

Not quite. Forgot something when you moved it from one side to the other.

OpenStudy (e.mccormick):

a=b+c a-b=b-b+c a-b=c

OpenStudy (shelby1290):

oh 1 1/2 turns into a negative

OpenStudy (e.mccormick):

=) Yep, so PR is on the line y=3/2x-3/2

OpenStudy (shelby1290):

0=3/2(1)+b 0=1 1/2+b 0-1 1/2=b -1 1/2=b

OpenStudy (shelby1290):

Okay:)

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