For the function f(x)=x^2-4x+5, x is greater than or equal to 2, which is equal to d/dx (f^(-1)(x))
1/(2y-4) where x and y are related by the equation (satisfy the equation) x=y^2-4y+5, x is greater than or equal to 1 2y-4, where x and y are related by the equation y=x^2-4x+5, x is greater than or equal to 2 1/(2x-4), for x is greater than or equal to 1 1/(2x-4), for x is greater than or equal to 2 1/(2y-4), where x and y are related by the equation y=x^2 -4x +5, x is greater than or equal to 2
ok you need to know how to solve a quadratic equation I prefer completing the square when it comes to inverse of a quad \[y=x^2-4x+5 \\ y=x^2-4x+4+1 \\ y-1=x^2-4x+4 \] solve for x first complete the square
x = sqrt(y-1) +2
right \[y-1=(x-2)^2 \\ x>2 \text{ \implies } x-2>0 \\ \text{ so } \sqrt{y-1}=x-2 \\ 2+\sqrt{y-1}=x \\ f^{-1}(x)=\sqrt{x-1}+2 \]
now differentiate
(d/dx) sqrt(x-1) +2
correct?
\[\frac{d}{dx}(f^{-1}(x))=\frac{d}{dx}(\sqrt{x-1}+2)\]
1/f = 1/2(sqrt(x-1))
you mean the derivative right?
I don't know where 1/f comes from
Yes
Inverse is not 1/f, a lot of people confuse that
\[f^{-1}(x) \neq \frac{ 1 }{ f(x) }\]
Ah I see.
\[x=2+\sqrt{y-1} \\ \text{ we are already have } x \ge 2 \text{ and we also have that we need } y \ge 1 \] \[\frac{d}{dx} (f^{-1}(x))=\frac{1}{2 \sqrt{x-1}} \text{ where } x>1\]
Great explanations @freckles
thanks kindly
Is that the final step because that is not one of my possible answer choices.
we switched x and y right? think we had y=x^2-4x+5 but here x is what? x=y^2-4y+5
if you replace x with that what do you have
\[\frac{1}{2 \sqrt{x-1}}=\frac{1}{2 \sqrt{y^2-4y+5-1}}=?\]
remember since we switched x and y we have x>1 and y>2 so y-2>0
you will need that y-2>0 to simplify
So if we have x =y^2-4y+5 where x is greater than or equal to 1. We get the answer:1/(2y-4) where x and y are related by the equation (satisfy the equation) x=y^2-4y+5, x is greater than or equal to 1
close \[\frac{1}{2 \sqrt{x-1}}=\frac{1}{2 \sqrt{y^2-4y+4+1-1}}=\frac{1}{2 \sqrt{(y-2)^2}} =\frac{1}{2 (y-2)} \text{ since } y>2 \] and x>1 not equal to 1 since you can't plug 1 into that one expression thought your question asked for something in terms of x not y
so again you have to change the variables around again :p
just interchange them replace y with x
So which answer choice would you say is right?
don't forget to change the one in the inequality too
the 4th option is what I'm implying
Wow that question was confusing. I'm going to spend some time looking over this and see if I can understand it better. Thanks for all your help!
We did a lot of back and forth with the variables
there was something else we could have looked at
\[(f^{-1})'(x)=\frac{1}{f'(f^{-1}(x))}\] do you know this formula?
\[x^2-4x+5=y \\ \ (x-2)^2+1=y \\ (x-2)^2=y-1 \\ x-2=\sqrt{y-1} \text{ since } x \ge 2 \\ \text{ this also says } y \ge 1 \\ x=\sqrt{y-1}+2 \\ \text{ interchange } \\ y=\sqrt{x-1}+2 , y \ge 2 , x \ge 1 \\ f^{-1}(x)=\sqrt{x-1}+2 \\ \text{ now } f(x)=x^2-4x+5 \\ \text{ so } f'(x)=2x-4 \\ f'(f^{-1}(x))=2(\sqrt{x-1}+2)-4 =2 \sqrt{x-1} \\ \text{ so } (f^{-1})'(x)=\frac{1}{f'(f^{-1}(x))}=\frac{1}{2 \sqrt{x-1}}, x>1 , y>2 \] you know what I'm kinda confused about your choices again
@rational what do you think of these choices?
or @Astrophysics
maybe you are right the first time i thought wasn't it right because we didn't have a function of x
I always end up with deriving the derivative of inverse \[f^{-1}(f(x)) = x \\~\\ [f^{-1}(f(x))]' f'(x)= 1\\~\\ [f^{-1}(f(x))]' = \dfrac{1}{f'(x)} \]
but that works nicely for a specific value of x i think what you did is exactly is what is asked by the question i think as they are asking for x >= 2
@NathanJHW the more I think of the 1st one is right I think I'm going to say is right because it it telling you where x=y^2-4y+5 like it is telling you x-1=(y-2)^2 or x=(y-2)^2+1
still I think these choices are extremely odd :p
lol I made it harder that it should be
x = y^2-4y+5 dx/dy = 2y - 4 dy/dx = 1/(2y-4) we still need to plugin the value of inverse function y here
like they didn't actually solve for the inverse though is the crazy thing
i dont think so, solving the inverse function is still required
I did more work than needed
1/(2y-4) where x and y are related by the equation (satisfy the equation) x=y^2-4y+5, x is greater than or equal to 1 is the first choice this choice did not go as far as solving for the y given x=y^2-4y+5
oh ok they gave options gotcha :)
thanks @rational for your workings of the problem :)
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