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OpenStudy (rizags):

hi

hero (hero):

\(q \ne 0\) goes without saying. This is a very stumpable problem. Where'd you find it?

OpenStudy (rizags):

ok, so if \[p-q=p+q=pq\], which is not possible because then p=0 and q=0

OpenStudy (rizags):

so if \[p+q=pq=\frac{ p }{ q }\] then \[p=\frac{1}{2}\] and \[q=-1\] which implies that \[p-q =\frac{ -1 }{2 }\] which is again, impossible

OpenStudy (rizags):

ok got it

OpenStudy (rizags):

this works: \[p-q=pq=\frac{p}{q}\] because this yields \[p=\frac{-1}{2} and q=-1\] so \[p+q=\frac{-3}{2}\]

OpenStudy (rizags):

is this correct?

hero (hero):

If it works then you should be able to demonstrate that it works.

OpenStudy (rizags):

final answer \[\frac{3}{2}\]

OpenStudy (rizags):

um, i can, because by demonstrating all four cases and how only ONE of them works, that must be the answer

OpenStudy (rizags):

can you help me with another problem thats giving me more difficulty?

hero (hero):

I came up with those numbers before, but I believe I used q = -1/2 and p = -1 instead of what you have done.

hero (hero):

I was very close, I just didn't think to swap the p and q

OpenStudy (rizags):

wait one sec, how would one Algebraically solve the system p-q=pq=p/q? i used graphing to do it. how would one solve that algebraically?

hero (hero):

You used graphing to do it? Hmmm.

OpenStudy (rizags):

yea, i graphed the 3 systems and found their intersection but i want to be able to solve it algebraically

hero (hero):

That's cheating.

hero (hero):

I'll have to re-trace my steps for this.

hero (hero):

I started with pq = p/q q^2 = 1 q = ± 1 Then I used p - q = pq p - (-1) = -p p + 1 = -p 2p = -1 p = -1/2

hero (hero):

I used q = -1

OpenStudy (rizags):

okay, got it.

OpenStudy (rizags):

what happens when q=1?

OpenStudy (rizags):

OHHHH that yields the exact same answer

OpenStudy (rizags):

so it doesnt really matter

hero (hero):

Well, if that's the case, then you have two solutions.

OpenStudy (rizags):

no, not really. The question asks for the absolute value of the fourth expression (p+q), which is, in either case, 3/2

hero (hero):

You have two solutions for q if it works.

OpenStudy (rizags):

oh, for q yes

OpenStudy (rizags):

could you help me with one more?

hero (hero):

You can post your question and we'll go from there. It is not necessary to ask for permission to post a question.

OpenStudy (rizags):

ok thanks

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