convergence of series
I'm stuck on a certain part
\[\sum_{n=1}^{\infty} (-1)^{n} \frac{ 2^{n} n! }{ n^{n} }\]
I used the ratio test and simplified it down to \[\frac{ 2(n+1) }{ (n+1) }*\frac{ n^{n} }{ (n+1)^{n} }\]
I know the first part cancels two and the second part the bottom is e. Is there anything I can do with the top or is it just infinity?
\[2 \lim_{x \rightarrow \infty}(\frac{1}{x+1})^x =2 \lim_{x \rightarrow \infty}(\frac{1}{x})^x=2 \lim_{x \rightarrow \infty}x^{-x}\] can you find that last limit?
actually you could leave it as 1/x^x 1/infty =0
ratio test
oh, you used it already, :D
how did you get 1/x+1? isn't it x/x+1?
@freckles
oops that was suppose to be an x
i forgot about him
is it the same limit then? just a typo?
\[\lim_{x \rightarrow \infty}(\frac{x}{x+1})^x=\lim_{x \rightarrow \infty}(\frac{x+1-1}{x+1})^x=\lim_{x \rightarrow \infty} (1-\frac{1}{x+1})^x\] see if you can take it from here :)
would it be -e then?
you mean e^(-1) ?
and don't forget to multiply your result by that 2 we had
no I do not. How would I be able to tell what e it is?
if you don't know you can always put it in the form of l'hospital you know write it as e^ln( )
since in ratio test we are taking limit of the absolute value don't worry about (-1)^n part. (this is simplified from the first set up) \(\large\color{slate}{\displaystyle\lim_{n \rightarrow ~\infty}\frac{2^{n+1}(n+1)!}{(n+1)^{n+1}}\times \frac{(n)^{n}}{2^{n}(n)!}}\) \(\large\color{slate}{\displaystyle\lim_{n \rightarrow ~\infty}\frac{n^n2(n+1)}{(n+1)^{n+1}}}\) \(\large\color{slate}{\displaystyle\lim_{n \rightarrow ~\infty}\frac{2n^n}{(n+1)^{n}}}\) \(\large\color{slate}{\displaystyle\lim_{n \rightarrow ~\infty}\frac{2n^n}{(n+1)^{n}}}\) = 2/e
that is less than 1 and thus convergetnt
btw, love the way I am able to connect to the site... sorry it took so much time
@recon14193 have you tried that l'hospital?
\[(\frac{x}{x+1})^x=e^{ x \ln(\frac{x}{x+1})} \\ \text{ so \let's figure out the exponent part as x goes \to infinity } \\ e^{\lim_{x \rightarrow \infty}\frac{\ln(\frac{x}{x+1})}{\frac{1}{x}}}\] you have the exponent is 0/0 so you can apply l'hosptial there
oh ok so that's how it is e^-1
well yeah because eventually we can show that exponent goes to -1
alright can I ask 1 more
by the e^(-1) is the same as 1/e
so you would end up with either 2*e^(-1) or 2/e as solomon said
what is the question
I just need help on which method to use
\[\sum \frac{ 10^{n} }{ (n+1)*4^{2n+1} }\]
I did ratio test and got 0
so I am not sure where to go from here
one sec I will try ratio test and see if I get that too
by the way L<1 which means it is convergent if that really is what you got
I was told that also but if L=0 it means that were not sure what it is
no it is L=1
but anyways I don't get L=0
http://tutorial.math.lamar.edu/Classes/CalcII/RatioTest.aspx see here if you don't believe me
thank you I see my mistake
\[\frac{10^{n+1}}{(n+2)4^{2(n+1)+1}} \cdot \frac{(n+1)4^{2n+1}}{10^n} \\ =\frac{10^n 10}{10^n} \cdot \frac{(n+1)4^{2n}4}{(n+2)4^{2n+2}4} \\ =\frac{10^n10}{10^n} \frac{(n+1)4^{2n}4}{(n+2)4^{2n}4^24}\]
you can do a lot of cancellation here
oh wow lol I didn't notice the first example on that paul's note was almost this one (basically is)
it's the same just no negative
write but the absolute values take care of the negative part )
one more?
ok
\[\sum (-1)^{n} \frac{ 2n }{ n+4 }\]
my book syas it is convergent but I don't see it because based on the alternative series test b_n the limit does not equal zero and it is increasing
hey question what is the number it starts at?
like does it start at n=0 or 1? or something else?
reason I'm asking is because I want to try integral test for the bn part
n=1
the first term is -2/5
\[\int\limits_{\infty}^{1}\frac{2x}{x+4} dx \\ \text{ \let } u=x+4 \\ du=dx \\ \text{ so if } u=x+4 \text{ then } u-4=x\]
lol 1 to infinity
I get the same as you that it diverges
it looks like wolfram agrees with us too http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=sum%28%28-1%29%5En*2n%2F%28n%2B4%29%2Cn%3D1..infty%29
sorry it's suppose to be \[\sum_{1}^{\infty} (-1)^{n-1} \frac{ 2n }{ n+4 }\]
it is suppose to come from the series -2/5+4/6-6/7+8/8-10/9+...
your first sum is right then
but either way b_n diverges
by integral test
well that the series of b_n
alright Ill ask my teacher then the book might just be wrong. I thank you for your help
\[\sum_{i=1}^{\infty}b_n \text{ diverges by integral test }\]
np
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