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OpenStudy (tanya123):

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OpenStudy (abb0t):

Find the slope first: \(\sf \color{red}{\frac{y_2-y_1}{x_2-x_1}}\) then use \(\sf (y_0 -y_1)=m(x_0-x_1)\)

OpenStudy (abb0t):

m = slope You can pick ANY \(\sf \color{red}{one}\) point to plug into x\(_1\) and \(\sf y_1\)

OpenStudy (tanya123):

aren't we going to use the formula? (x-h)^2=(y-k)=r^2

Miracrown (miracrown):

Ye matey, that is the formula we need to use, only you will need + between the x and y brackets

OpenStudy (tanya123):

oh yeah, forgot to put the +

Miracrown (miracrown):

\[(x-h)^2 \space + \space ( y-k)^2 \space = r^2\]

OpenStudy (tanya123):

alright, how do I make the circle?

Miracrown (miracrown):

do you mean draw it?

Miracrown (miracrown):

You will need to identify the elements for it first. You need the center and the radius the center is already given as (-1, -3) so that means the h and k values are the coordinates of the center ... h is -1 and k is -3 here

Miracrown (miracrown):

so you will have to plug in those values into the equation as well as the given point, the (3, 0) point and from that, you will end up with an equation, from which you can solve for the radius

OpenStudy (tanya123):

so that'd be, (x-(-1)^2 + (y-(-3)^2=r^2 ?

Miracrown (miracrown):

ye, that is correct so far ... go on

Miracrown (miracrown):

\[(x-(-1)^2 + (y-(-3)^2=r^2 \]

OpenStudy (tanya123):

um then (x-1)^2 + (y+3)^2=r^2

Miracrown (miracrown):

the first bracket should be (x+1) \[ (x+1)^2 + (y+3)^2=r^2\] Keep going ...

OpenStudy (tanya123):

oh ok, and then d= that root symbol (x,+1{down2})^2 + (y,y4{down 2}^2

Miracrown (miracrown):

You don't need that, you are given the point (3, 0) on the circle so you can plug in that point into the equation you already have, the (x+1)^2 + (y+3)^2 = r^2

OpenStudy (tanya123):

oh...then what is the next step?

Miracrown (miracrown):

you need to plug in the given point into the equation you have to replace the X with 3 and the Y with 0 and try and solve for the r from that, savvy?

OpenStudy (tanya123):

(3+1)^2 + (0-3)^2 =r^2 ?

Miracrown (miracrown):

the signs inside the brackets are +s the -s got cancelled earlier, there are no more -s

OpenStudy (tanya123):

(3+1)^2 + (0+3)^2 =r^2 like this? and what is "s"?

Miracrown (miracrown):

\[(3+1)^2 \space + (0+3)^2 \space = r^2\] Can you try and continue with that to solve for the r ?

Miracrown (miracrown):

\(\color{blue}{\text{Originally Posted by}}\) @tanya123 (3+1)^2 + (0+3)^2 =r^2 like this? and what is "s"? \(\color{blue}{\text{End of Quote}}\) That's right! The S is minuses, the minus signs you had earlier got cancelled, there are no more minuses, -s is just a short name for minuses, savvy? :)

OpenStudy (tanya123):

lol oh, thanks! and is r 25^2? so 625?

Miracrown (miracrown):

Ahoy, Matey ... let me show you how the calculations work like: \[4^2+3^2 \space = r^2\] \[16+9 = r^2\] \[\sqrt{25} \space = \sqrt{r^2}\] \[5 = r\]

Miracrown (miracrown):

so now that you know the radius you can set up or write out the complete circle equation and then you can try and graph that too, if you need to graph it as well so how will the complete circle equation look like first?

OpenStudy (tanya123):

(3+1)^2 + (0+3)^2 = 5

Miracrown (miracrown):

Me matey, that is not what we need .----.

Miracrown (miracrown):

this is the circle equation you need \[(x+1)^2 + (y+3)^2 = 5^2 \] or you can have 25 on the right side instead of the 5^2 either one is ok

OpenStudy (tanya123):

so you leave the x and y in the equation?

Miracrown (miracrown):

Ye, the X and Y will remain as variables only the h, k and r are plugged in

OpenStudy (tanya123):

alright, now do we draw the circle?

Miracrown (miracrown):

yes, now you can try and make up the graph for it, do you want to give it a try or do you want me to show you how the graph is done for that?

OpenStudy (tanya123):

I did make one but I'm sure its not correct, do show

Miracrown (miracrown):

lol ok, first we can plot the center ... (I will do this one a sep page) from the center we can use the radius of 5 to go up, left, right and down by 5 units and place a point at each new point...since we are given the point (3, 0) we can plot that one too ...and then we can try and connect those up into a circle shape as accurately as we can and this is how the final piece looks like: http://prntscr.com/6ruucz

OpenStudy (tanya123):

ohhhhh one more question, where is the radius line marked?

Miracrown (miracrown):

if you mean on the drawing, the radius was not drawn on the earlier drawing we had usually the radius line is not really drawn... you use the radius value to get other useful points. You can connect the center to one of the points on the outside of the circle or even more of the points outside if you want to show one of the radii but technically there are an infinity of different radii for a circle so you can not really show all of them

OpenStudy (tanya123):

ok makes sense, thanks Mira! xD you are beyond expert :D

Miracrown (miracrown):

Ahoy, me heartie! I am just a normal human being with a brain of Eisenstein (;

OpenStudy (tanya123):

lol yeah that's a good one C;

Miracrown (miracrown):

:D

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